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Bedrock of the Community
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A 1909-S VDB deemed "Questionable Color" by PCGS. So when they state QC is that the same as "Artificial Toning" or is there even a difference? So the question is - is this a true "Woody" or is there something else going on........what say you? https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...d-from-photo"1909-S Lincoln Cent V.D.B. PCGS Genuine Unc Details (Art. Toned)"     Edited by Marv65
03/21/2026 9:54 pm
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I don't know the answer to your question - but offer my opinion that this is a very ugly obverse lacking any hint of eye appeal.
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Bedrock of the Community
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If it was a woodie, the pattern should show on both sides.
Not quite sure what caused the discolouration.
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03/21/2026 11:10 am
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Pillar of the Community
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The reverse is nice.
It sure looks like the obverse was chemically treated to remove the patina, maybe using an artists' brush with either brass or silver polish or the old vinegar-and-salt method. The lines across Lincoln's neck, collar, and bow tie and some of the vertical lines on his face looks like places where a brush stroke started or stopped.
It's a shame. If the obverse looked like the reverse, this would have been a beautiful coin.
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If it was a woodie, the pattern should show on both sides. That's not true - I've found one sided "Woodies" before. I've even acquired this graded example.........   |
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Very interesting.  Not sure what to think. Errers and Varietys.
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That's not true I agree. I did not say anything earlier, waited to let things play out a bit. I have ran across them and seen them posted with only one side grained. I do not understand why it is so impossible in folk's minds. Think about it, we are talking about a bad alloy mix, and we are dealing with depth, even though it be ever so little and is probably why we don't see this happening more than it does. I will post my findings tomorrow on multiple single sided woodies that are on this site alone. Edited misspelling.... -makecents-
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03/21/2026 8:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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It sure looks like the obverse was chemically treated to remove the patina, That may be........if you look at the unaffected area on the lower right of the obverse, it looks pretty much like the reverse patina......  |
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I'm not sure about that 'bleaching' on the obverse,
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wonder most about the rims showing the brightness of the so called "Woody" affect. I was looking and the examples I have only show that affect on the surfaces of the cents, not the rims for some reason. Even on this extreme example I have the rims do not seem to be involved at such a high degree...........   EDIT: Posted coin rims.........  Edited by Marv65
03/21/2026 9:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Looking at the bottom front of the bust, I would suggest that something "splashed" on the coin and there was an attempt to wipe it with a cloth. Just an opinion.
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Here is a link that has several one sided woodies and the pages that have them so you don't have to look completely though it. LINK https://goccf.com/t/232926&SearchTerms=woody Page 2 - 1914P Page 11 - 1941P Page 13 - 1853 Page 15 - 1921 Page 16 This 1921 UK half penny shows how the depth of the bad alloy mix comes into play. Page 18 1909P Page 21 1919P Page 22 1838 Page 24 1925D -makecents-
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Here is a link that has several one sided woodies and the pages that have them so you don't have to look completely though it. Good link  |
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