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1870 Metal Disk, What Is It? : Spanish 5 Centimos - Provisional Government

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1870-Metal-Disk,-What-Is-It?-:-Spanish-5-Centimos---Provisional-Government

Yep, you've seen this photo in at least two other posts...

As you can see, there is no country printed on the disk/planchet, but the all to familiar OM is, and we all know where that's from.

THE OBVERSE READS::

CINCO CENTIMOS DOSCIENTAS PIEZAS EN KILOG. *

THE REVERSE READS;

CINCO GRAMOS 1870.

It will be greatly appreciated and interesting to see what you guys come with!

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Very interesting! Way to go you two!

This is my first encounter/introduction to an actual coin without a country on it; didn't know they existed.

Thank you two for the your very speedy answers!

I'e heard of "short lived threads before, but this on takes the cake!
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All coins from the UK don't have the country on them.
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This is my first encounter/introduction to an actual coin without a country on it; didn't know they existed.


All coins from the UK don't have the country on them.

Technically, it does "have the country on it": the coat of arms, which is the coat of arms of the Provisional Government of Spain.

Spanish coins normally showed a portrait of the king, but they had overthrown their Queen Isabella II in 1868 and hadn't picked a new one yet by 1870 when they needed more coins. Hence, this provisional government issue of 1870.

A lot of German States coins from the 1600s and 1700s also don't explicitly name the country on them; instead, they rely on the monogram of the prince or the country's coat of arms. This Prussian coin and this Saxon coin are but two examples.

And technically, most British coins up to the beginning of the reign of Elizabeth II did "name the country": the Latin abbreviation BR.or BR.OMN was included in the royal titles; this is of course short for "Britanniarium" or "Britanniarium omnium", literally meaning "of the Britains" or "of all the Britains", meaning the British Isles. This was removed when "queen of all the Britons" was removed from the Queen's titles upon her formal coronation, out of respect for the fact that Ireland (part of the British Isles) was no longer part of her majesty's kingdom, and thus she was no longer queen of "all the Britains".
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YES, very nice job you two, Hondo and DBM! I guess I need to be more observant in the future or write down what I once knew......dementia is a bit...well you know what I mean.

Just this morning I stood up from my chair (apparently to something) but once in a full upright position, I asked myself. "why did I stand up"?

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Just this morning I stood up from my chair (apparently to something) but once in a full upright position, I asked myself. "why did I stand up"?

that is because your memory is in your butt.
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Oh my goodness!!!!!! I'm still laughing with tears, that's so funny, Thank you Dearborn!!!

I'll sit back down now! Plop!
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Sap, I love your info, thank you very much!
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