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Caracalla. Big Fan Of His Coinage, But I Am Questioning This One I Bought. Most Are Good!

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 Posted 05/19/2026  9:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add newtraffic2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The drop test, a slight drop doesn't have a pingy sound like silver.
Looks so perfect looking.

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Can you validate if this is real or fake?
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 Posted 05/19/2026  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
from the picture, there is absolutely no real reason to question the authenticity of this coin
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 Posted 05/19/2026  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newtraffic2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, amazing insight. I did a slight drop and it sounded different but don't have much else. It looked too good in hand and I had to question it
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For modern coins to test for silver versus fake a lot of people do a ping frequency test. There's Youtube videos about it and a hand held ping tester. But due to differnet weights, shapes, condition, shapes I doubt this works on ancient coins. I'd be careful dropping ancient coins to hear the sound. Some ancient silver coins are crystalized inside and some bronze coins can have corrosion inside making them brittle. Years ago I accidentally dropped a Tiberius silver denarius on the floor, one edge broke off. I super glued the piece back on but it's obviously damaged. That reduced it's value a lot.
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@new, if you are concerned about whether or not this coin is silver, why not do a specific gravity test?
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Why would you do a specific gravity test on a coin that looks completely genuine? Maybe I wasn't completely clear; but there is no reason to suspect that this coin is not genuine.
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@vic, you know way more about these than I do so I'm definitely not questioning your assessment that the coin is fine. With that said, the OP mentioned doing a ping test. Is that not done to assess the alloy? My point was that there are less potentially-damaging ways to assess the alloy than the ping test.
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No, you don't drop ancient coins and listen to the noise they make. Specific gravity might be great for modern coins (I don't know so I don't comment on that) but for ancient coins...what is the specific gravity-- the term itself is "specific" which it very much isn't for ancient coins. How much silver is in this coin? Is it always the same amount? What other metals are present in the alloy? etc. etc.
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I would concur with the general sentiment that "don't do the ping test on ancient coins". For two main reasons:

One, these coins are not nice and perfectly round like a modern coin. The "sound" a metallic object makes when it resonates depends to a high degree on it's shape, as well as it's composition; "shape" doesn't normally need to be taken into account for modern coins, because they're all the same shape: round, and all nice and even with no cracks and protrusions. So two otherwise identical (and both perfectly genuine) coins of Caracalla might sound completely different from each other, simply because of their uniquely different shapes.

Two, there is an interesting physical property of silver that you desperately need to be told about: silver "crystallizes" as it ages. This crystallization not only will alter the sound a coin makes when it "pings", but will more importantly make the coin much more brittle. Sudden stress placed upon the coin (such as by hitting it or dropping it on a hard surface) might have merely made the coin "bounce" and "ring" 2000 years ago back when it was freshly struck, but today that same force could simply make a crystallized coin "shatter" instead. Ancient silver coins are much more fragile than their modern-day counterparts. I'm not the only collector to have had an ancient silver coin snap in half in my fingers, simply from the slight pressure of squeezing it into a coin flip. We really don't want to be applying stress to these coins unnecessarily.
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