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thekidcollector's Avatar
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 Posted 07/31/2009  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've lost money on something you didn't do or buy.
It is his fault and I think you must demand the 10% like posted above.
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 Posted 07/31/2009  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wait, you actually lost money on this transaction?! Demand him to pay you back or file an ebay report!
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 Posted 07/31/2009  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He did refund all the money. But there was no excuse to cancel the transaction. "It was for his family", this is what I wrote him when he told me that, "If family is so important to you then this is a good lesson in honesty that you can teach them. Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no."
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 Posted 07/31/2009  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think ebay should impose a penalty or fine on the seller in a case like that. ebay gives you up to 12 hours before the auction ends to cancel an auction with no consequences. Just to reneg on an auction that has completed its course is totally unfair to the winner.
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 Posted 07/31/2009  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thomcollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That goes beyond negative feedback. ebay needs to close that account.
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 Posted 07/31/2009  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once I had to cancel an auction after a bidder sent money because the item I was selling (not coin related) became damaged.
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 Posted 08/01/2009  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me to nds76. I was selling some Harley mirrors, had a bid, moved the box and everything fell out the bottom. Crash, ended the auction.
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 Posted 08/01/2009  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is awful, if he really wanted to show his son something it should be to follow through on deals made.
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 Posted 08/01/2009  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldnt put too much stock into what the non seller said about family.Often a person in the wrong will put others in faults way as some kind of dillusional "out"
Its just as likely he hadnt a clue what its worth was until after the auction ended , could even be an interesting message in his inbox informing him or offering a better price.

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 Posted 08/01/2009  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I reported this situation to e-bay. Don't know if it will do any good.
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 Posted 08/02/2009  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karrlot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two ways to deal with this:
1) Give the guy the benefit of the doubt - maybe his child is ill and he needs medical care. Maybe he got a better offer and needs more money. Who wouldn't back out of a transaction to help pay for medical bills of their child? Let it go and move on in life.

2) Assume the guy is no good. That sure is a pain to buy something then have the seller back out of the transaction. Wouldn't that be a pain if every time you listed something on ebay some bidder won the auction and then backed out of the transaction?

Karma is a very strong force in this world, so I would recommend you go with option 1. (But option 2 sounds like a lot of fun, huh?)
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 Posted 08/02/2009  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electric_Op_Ltd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It happens because, well, its ebay, and well, it happens.

You did your due diligence by leaving the feedback. Nuff said, leave it at that.

I assume that when I list a coin on ebay, my starting bid is very well what I could end up selling the coin for. I calculate that bid accordingly. Example, what if I had a 1999 silver proof set that I paid 34.95 for at the mint? Well heck, if I sell it for 90 dollars I've tripled my money. But if I want to play smart, I'll use a three figure opening bid. That way I KNOW I'll either a) get no bids or b) receive what I think is adequate money.

Here's two experiences I had as buyer:

1) Live auction, was an 1850's type I gold dollar. Bidding started at 80 dollars, went up to 150... then the auctioneer announces he has a "reserve" of 170 on the coin (placed by the consignor, not him, he's a pretty straight up guy). Greysheet bid was 190, no one bid at that level, lot not sold. LOL my high bid was 50 dollars

2) A major auction house had a 1911-D half eagle listed in 3 consecutive sales... at a crazy low price with no bids! I couldn't fathom it. Then the 4th time, I pounced on it, only to find my bids were for nothing because "at the last minute, the consignor placed a reserve on this coin", sorry , thanks for playing. I wrote a very polite email protesting, but hey I can't force them, and I'm not hiring a lawyer for something that's worth 1000 dollars.

I hate to say it but you gotta chalk this up to experience.

HTH

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 Posted 08/02/2009  10:34 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That goes beyond negative feedback. ebay needs to close that account

Good luck with that. In ebay's eyes, he's another money maker for them. Unfortunately, as I have stated before, ebay has chosen to make it's rules very liberal and the result is an example of the transaction above. You as a buyer have to choose weather you want to take a chance with the transaction been followed through with. It stinks, but that's just what it's become.
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 Posted 08/02/2009  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, "It happens because, well, its ebay, and well, it happens".
I'll keep an eye open for that coin just to see what really happened.
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 Posted 08/02/2009  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1) Give the guy the benefit of the doubt - maybe his child is ill and he needs medical care. Maybe he got a better offer and needs more money. Who wouldn't back out of a transaction to help pay for medical bills of their child? Let it go and move on in life.

2) Assume the guy is no good. That sure is a pain to buy something then have the seller back out of the transaction. Wouldn't that be a pain if every time you listed something on ebay some bidder won the auction and then backed out of the transaction?


IMO it doesn't make any difference what the guys motivation was, he proved what kind of person he was by his actions.
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