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1996 Fake Twoonie In My Change?

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I was dumping out my change purse when I got home tonight and this ugly bugger jumped out and tried to bite me! do you think it is fake or just badly picked on by someone?

fake 1996 twoonie?   weighs 7.2 grams    magnetic.  (odd color and feel)

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real 2005 twoonie   weighs 7.4 grams    magnetic.


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 Posted 08/31/2009  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is soooooooo ugly Chances are it came from the fake loonies & toonies made near Montreal. Here is the CBC News heading:



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 Posted 08/31/2009  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I once found a 10 peso coin on the beach in Mexico that looked something like that from the salt water I think?
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 Posted 08/31/2009  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like chemical enhancement....:-)
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Here's a comparison between a real/fake Twoonie. Sometimes the core is not well-bonded.
I forget the year of these coins...the legends stand out to me.

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 Posted 09/07/2009  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think that the first twonie has been in seawater, or possibly in corrosive ground, or some chemicals- it has that unselective pitted look. I don't think it is a counterfeit. I have heard that there are counterfeit 2004 and 2005 twonies around- from this Montreal operation, I think.
The ones with the problems bonding were in the first year, 1996. They were especially bad if the coins had been frozen, or had blunt force applied.
I have never seen any reports of the differences between the fake twonies and the real ones.-I have just been through several hundred and did not notice any that seemed suspicious. I see from the pictures thick rounded rims, much thicker letters, poor relief and definition in the centre plug- no ear obvious, and a different finish and colour, plus the centre plug does not seem seated exactly.
Thanks for the information.
I used to work for different charities when they had to provide some of the staff for casinos, providing non-profits with funding from gambling. I used to go to the RCMP HQ and check out which counterfeits were in circulation. I only met one- I went into the counting room just after a cash box was dumped on the table, and from about 10 feet away I said-You have a counterfeit there- It was refracting light so that its paper looked almost red, while every other bill had a somewhat green refraction. It was a counterfeit!
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The 2004 and 2005 "Montreal Mint" forgeries are very easy to detect after you see the first. In Montreal and Ottawa it was easy to find until 2007. In the last month I have seen none. The pic posted by DVCollector is the typical example.

To note: the core and ring in the fake are pressed together but they lack the locking mechanism RCM uses for the twoonie - applying some pressure with the thumb is more than enough to pop the core out.
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I know it has been a long time since this pitted coin was posted but just wanted to add, my brother has 2 of them that are as bad or worse than those in the pic. We have often wondered how they got like that and remain with the same wonder.
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the 1996 twoonie there is 2 varieties. one struck at the Royal Canadian Mint the other struck in Germany. the German ones are slightly struck off center. the German ones are dull and have matte finish, with lines similar to a bullion finish across the rings. I believe the one you have is German. check the Charlton standard catalogue.
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I heard the people involved were producing 2004 Twonies. I have a couple and they are hard to find in change. the feel different and sound different when dropped. I heard the Police confiscated 35,000 2004's so the Government started destroying that year. If you don't believe check your change for a 2004.
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