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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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OK, OK, it hit $701 today but it CLOSED at $699.70. There will be a sell off tomorrow and maybe Thursday. Close enough for me. This was fun!
To add a little more interest in my ESP, I grabbed a CML about 2 1/2 weeks ago (yes, it was high), but $100 in a couple of weeks on a little bitty ounce wasn't bad...ya think? Thanks everything this was fun! Now we'll shoot for $800, but see what the world news, investors, mining and nervousness will bring.
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Valued Member
United States
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There you go, GOLD blew by the $700 mark today-- Closed at $707.90--Just like I predicted last week BTW-- 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Cute CiSCo! Close but no cigar! The way the market teeter-tottered today I don't want to even think about $800 (yet)- whew what a week!
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you buy the Buffalo bullion from the mint or does it have to be bought from a dealer?
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Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
That is up in the air right now Shatsi but I would assume the Mint will be offering two to three promotional sets but they will probably be PROOFS or a special finish. The uncs. will probably be through dealers only. They will offer the buffalo gold in 1/10 ounce, 1/4 ounce, 1/2 ounce and the full ounce starting in 2007 but ONLY the full ounce with the 2006 date. With the price of gold rising the unc. coin will probably be the only one most people can afford as there will be a hefty premium of the proofs and sets I am sure!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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That would certainly make the oz Buffalo Proof a mighty expensive coin. Even the BU's would be a great buy! Maybe a 1/10 oz for me just because!
800 by August kidcollector? Here I go again - it'll happen in a matter of a few short weeks, if that. The market is going to recover from it's nervousness and just go with the flow. Gold mines are opening up for mining again (in the States) but, grabbing gold from the earth isn't an overnight experience. I read somewhere a $1000 by Summer and it sure is looking that way. Looking at the whole picture and why it's going up is not a pretty sight. I'm sticking with Silver for a while........
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Gold at 1 Grande in the summer!!!
Woah!!! Still need to buy before it gets too expensive. And silver will thast go high aswell?($40~$50)
What do you think?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Oh I'm not an expert kidcollector but, I do watch the metal market like an hawk. We have 50% of our 401K in Gold Bonds so you might say it's a major project and investment in our portfolio. My gut feeling tells me that the $1000 is highly likely but, there are soooooo many factors involved. What I tend to watch closely is ofcourse the value of the US buck. The other is World tensions such as Iran as they have a large gold investment also. If Iran decides to sell Crude using the Euro then the US dollar will fall tremendously. (IE metal markets will rise). Other Oil rich Countries are jabbering about using the Euro also. Not good for the US! I do believe that others are buying right now because of these expectations and that is driving the price higher. Buy now? Well, I did a couple of weeks ago. Silver usually lags a little behind (I think), but if history repeats itself then Silver will rise also - shades of 1980ish. Today it looks like Platinum is rising so perhaps the market is switching to that for a while. Palladium and Rhodium are also wise investments as they are useful in the Auto industry (converters). Like I said, I'm no expert. Even the "experts" are restless right now. Good luck in whatever you choose. It's the fun of coin collecting and the metals market that drives our passion - right?
Edited by dsking 05/11/2006 10:26 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The following is one person's opinion. It was written in 2001 when Gold was around $275/oz. The article is rather long, however informative. I was drawn to his point in #10 considering current "events". Hope this helps. Like I said it's only one person's opinion.
Ten Rules For Investing In Gold
1.An investment in gold should be based on macroeconomic considerations. If one expects or fears rising inflation, destabilizing deflation, a bear market in stocks or bonds, or financial turmoil, gold should do well and exposure is warranted.
2.Understanding the internal dynamics of the gold market can be helpful as to investment timing issues. For example, the weekly position reports of commodity trading funds or sentiment indicators offer useful clues as to entry or exit points for active trading strategies. Reports on physical demand for jewelry, industrial, and other uses compiled by various sources also provide some perspective. However, none of these considerations, non monetary in nature, yield any insight as to the broad market trend. The same can be said for reports of central bank selling and lending activity. Central banks are bureaucratic institutions and in their judgements they are essentially market trend followers.
3.Excessive reliance on trading strategies to generate returns can be dangerous and counterproductive. Returns from a "buy and hold" strategy should be more than sufficient to compensate for the inherent volatility. Many who have tried to outsmart this market by hyperactive trading have under performed. Success is dependent in large part on the occurrence of "fat tail" events that lie outside the parameters of trading models.
4.A reasonable allocation in a conservative, diversified portfolio is 0 to 3% during a gold bear market and 5%-10% during a bull market.
5.Equities of gold mining companies offer greater leverage than direct ownership of the metal itself. Gold equities tend to appear expensive in comparison to those of conventional companies because they contain an imbedded option component for a possible rise in the gold price. The share price sensitivity to a hypothetical rise in metal price is related to the cash flow from current production as well as the valuation impact on proven and probable reserves.
6.The carnage of the last twenty years has simplified the task of individual stock selection because so few have survived the gold bear market. Although a rising tide may lift most boats, financial statements should be reviewed with special attention to hedging arrangements that could undermine participation in higher gold prices or even jeopardize financial stability. Individual stock selection is less important than identification of the primary trend.
7.Even though gold itself is a conservative investment, "gold fever" attracts a crowd of speculators, promoters, and charlatans who only want to separate investors from their money. Avoid offbeat "exploration" companies with little or no current production and gargantuan appetites for new money.
8.Bullion or coins are a more conservative way to invest in gold than through the equities. In addition, there is greater liquidity for large pools of capital. Investing in the physical metal requires scrutinizing the custodial arrangements and the creditworthiness of the financial institution. Do not mistake the promise of a financial institution to settle based on the gold price, for example, a "gold certificate" or a "structured note", (i.e. derivative), for the actual physical possession of the metal. Insist on possession in a segregated vault, subject to unscheduled audits, and inaccessible to the trading arrangements or financial interest of the financial institution.
9.Gold is a controversial, anti establishment investment. Therefore, do not rely on conventional financial media and brokerage house commentary. In this area, such commentary is even more misleading and ill informed than usual.
10.Don't settle for too little. Should outlier events now deemed unimaginable by consensus thinking actually occur, the price target for gold would be several multiples of its current depressed price. Gold represents insurance against some sort of financial catastrophe. The magnitude of the upside is a function of the amount of paper assets that would be converted to gold irrespective of price.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Well, I live in Kuwait!
Place where Most Oil/sq km.
And strongest currency in the world. Oil here is cheap, and so is the gold ;)
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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That's good to know. Here it seems, Gold is oil and oil is gold! You are fortunate in those areas. Are you a Kuwaiti citizen or US? You may have a totally different perspective on the metals market than us in the U.S. Is Silver a major commodity in Kuwait? I need to read up on that now - hmmmmmm
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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I'm neither. I'm an Indian but live in Kuwait. Though I haven't bought gold here, I know that it can be purchased at a 20% downrate. 20% off. :)
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Yes I see those golden 1 gram bars with a rose out of Dubai weekly on ebay germany I would not touch them at 60 cents on the dollar The only people that can get gold consistently at 20% discount are people with several hundred thousands of dollars buying from estates or divorcees or widows 
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