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Weird Find | Imitation Chinese Cash

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Really need help with this find from today. It's thin, has a diameter of 2 mm and weighs 1.1 grams.
Any help with country and date will be appreciated. Also value if any. Thanks.
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 Posted 09/20/2009  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like a fake Chinese cash coin to me.
It is made in name of Pu Yi, the last emperor of China, with the mentioning of his reign-name Hsuang tung. Mint name is Boo Ciowan: Hu-Pu Board of Revenue (Peking)
This coin is obviously struck, and normally those cash coins were cast (with some exceptions, but not this one).
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 Posted 09/20/2009  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Clark Kent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sharper than any I have or maybe even have seen. Look struck to me too.
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I got ahold of a world coin book and checked China. This coin is similar to many depicted but I couldn't match it exactly to tell what province it came from.
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 Posted 09/20/2009  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See the dots all over the obverse? They're a sure sign of an imitation coin; genuine coins are cast, while this is machine-struck; the dots are supposed to mimic (at first glance) the sandy appearance of a genuine cast coin.

The Chinese and Manchu scripts are both rather badly drawn; the "mintmark" is supposed to be Revenue Mint, Beijing, as Bart said.
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 Posted 09/20/2009  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rdwarrior to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There were some machine struck cash coins (starting 1889). However the one's I have seen don't have the dots. And the characters on this one is not right.
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 Posted 09/20/2009  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the info. I learned a lot. I'm not very good at foreign coin ID. I usually just play with U.S. By the way, that's where I found this coin, in a roll of nickels. Machine wrapped in a cello roll. Like I said-weird !
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 Posted 09/21/2009  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certianly seems that the price was right. Did you get this coin plus 39 nickels? or 40?

I have gotten extras in 1 and 5 cent rolls in the past.
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This is mostly likely to make for the deco rather than as fake collecting coin. I have a deco from china with ~100 of them.
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I used to see this coin for sale at Pier 1 Imports. Part of their feng shui section. These coins, rocks, candles, etc. All designed to create a proper aura in the home.
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These "coins" were made starting in the early 1990"s. They were often packaged in sets of all the Ching emperors, but with the reverses all with the exact same size and style of writing the mint name. The thin, smooth coins with the raised bumps give them away. The genuine coins tend to be thicker, and have different ways of writing the characters.
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