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Yours is pointier on the west end. Your "V" is larger because it hasn't filled in yet with metal. (***ROUND 2***) lol... O, btw, mine does have a beginning of a Cud on the obverse. Once a Cud starts, it doesn't go away....   Edited by Peaceman
10/31/2009 09:54 am
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Peaceman... I want you to know how much fun this is. I am learning a lot. You made great points, but... LOL... My coin may not have the Cud on the obverse, but has major Cud on the reverse... check the link again for new pics. Which is very interesting, because I agree that once the Cud starts it does not go away, so now why does your coin have Cud on the obverse, and mine on the reverse, but neither has the other. (confusing) From this angle, you can see the "mouse look" a little better. I am interested in what anyone (you too Peaceman)has to say about this. Very cool and interesting, and a great learning tool. http://www.vamworld.com/message/view/home/16078983 |
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Peaceman... Thanks so much for doing this with me.. I just realized (mind you I have only had this coin for less than a week) that this is going to be a new revision... probably VAM-1C1... it has the rim Cud on the reverse and a collar clash on the rim below DOLLAR. I would have caught it eventually, but this exercise had me looking closely at the coin sooner than I planned. Very cool, and thanks again for the fun... BTW.. I am still interested in your theory on the rim Cuds though. |
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OK... I got brought back down to earth... what is on my coin has been ruled out as Cud by the vamworld.com members. I am fine with that. But begs to question whether or not that is Cud on your coin. (if it is... you should send to Leroy for new revision. That would be awesome!!) This coin of mine has a collar clash under DOLLAR on the rim which you can see from my previous links... the clash is just like the coin here... http://www.vamworld.com/1924-S+VAM-1F I am going to send it off to Leroy to see if it grabs a new revision. *fingers crossed* That would be weird... 2 revisions from a single conversation for one of the most sought after Peace dollars?!?! CRAZY!! What do you think? |
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I'm having fun too. I don't have the coin in front of me, she's at the bank. In short, a Cud forms when part of the die breaks at the rim. It gets progressively worse, never better. Sometimes it runs the length of the rim and sometimes it moves out into the fields. It's just like a die crack. It will never go away (unless the die is actually refilled with metal - very unlikely) it will only get longer and fill in with metal as the die breaks off more and more. Here's a picture of a large Cuds on a Peace dollar:  Edited by Peaceman
10/31/2009 9:34 pm
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And now for # 6... This Bar Wing is in its final die state of 4 total die stages. In the third stage we see a more rounded break on top of the Eagle's wing. In the final stage, the break becomes pointed as in this example. The 4th stage is fairly common, however, this example also has a rim clip on it at 9:00 making it a two error coin.  Edited by Peaceman
11/15/2009 6:36 pm
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That is a slick coin. I have a coin coming in that I hope will change what people think is ULDS for the BAR Wing Peace dollar. It is a solid lump of silver with the clashed spike in the same place. Fingers crossed, it was an online auction and coin is not in hand yet. You are doing a fantastic job on this set. Keep it going, and let me know as soon as you find that 1925-S VAM-3A. ;) I really want someone to find one of them. Though it is cool having the only 1 at the moment, because there are so few... (1) I have no idea what the coin might be worth. Still an AU coin, pretty too. What do you have your eye on for your next purchase? (just interested) VERY COOL COINS! |
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How about this one... Break goes all the way over to the "W" in "WE" :)  |
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I am amazed at how fast you are putting together the rarest Peace VAMs. Keep up the good work. That whisker Jaw is excellent.
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I've had most for a very long time. It'd be impossible to find them within a few months. I'm sure at some point I'll find an even later 1a as there are so many of them.
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11/24/2009 7:03 pm
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I bet you are glad you held onto them. Especially those ultra rarities. Field Break... Tail on O. How long do you figure you looked for the ones going in the registry set?
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Over the last 6-7 years I've viewed about 1m Peace dollars looking for Vams. I feel my set is "almost" irreplaceable, especially the 2+ error coins and the 1-2 known coins. You couldn't duplicate it. Here's number 8, a 1922 VAM 12a Moustache in ULDS. Here's the description: You can see in this example that the break has reached the very end of the large die crack coming down the cheek. In the stage prior to this, the metal stops just shy of the end of the crack. The lateness of the break can be determined by drawing an imaginary straight line across the flat part of the very bottom of the break. If the line misses the lips, then you have a very hard to find, desirable variety.  Edited by Peaceman
11/26/2009 12:57 am
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BOOO... I cant see the mustache pic. :( repost it, I am drooling here.
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MUCH BETTER!... I know the ULDS is your thing, but I saw a recent thread that said this is one of a couple VAMs where the EDS is more sought after. Apparently people like the "pencil thin mustache" as it was put. Personally, I am not sure because I never saw the EDS. But the other reasoning, is this break progressed quickly to this stage and there are more LDS than EDS available. Who knows, but this is one heck of a collection. I am behind, but shooting for a similar collection (if I count online, I may have seen an eighth of the coinage you are talking about) LOL. Keep looking for that 1925-S VAM-3A. I really do want someone else to find one. And with all the Peace dollars you go through, you are bound to find one. Keep up the good work! |
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So whats next? I think I like the ULDS idea. It is a heck of an undertaking. I like (like most people) the LDS of breaks. That mustache is BEAUTIFUL like all the other coins in this thread.
Do me a favor. I know that you have the registry set and all, can you post on here the VAM/Grade (we know they are all PCGS)
for example... 1923-P VAM-1C MS-61 (or whatever the grade is)
I am really impressed with the nice coins you have and am glad you started a registry set. Keep em' coming!
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