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Germany 1835 1 Kreuzer -- Double Die/Clash?

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 Posted 10/27/2009  04:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is an interesting coin that I obtained recently, And I'm trying to figure out if it is a doubled die variety, and/or a counter clash error coin.

The reverse seems to show doubling in the letters (Most noticeable in the second "E" in "KREUZER", and to the bottom-left of the "1".)

Also, The reverse possibly shows signs of a clash error. It is a bit difficult to notice in the photo, But there is a dark outline on the reverse that takes almost the exact shape of the head on the obverse.

Germany-1835-1-Kreuzer----Double-Die/Clash?

Germany-1835-1-Kreuzer----Double-Die/Clash?

I was curious if this coin had either error/variety, And how much of a premium it might have.

Thanks!
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10/27/2009 04:30 am
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 Posted 10/27/2009  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JOE- Nice looking coin! There certainly is some doubling on the reverse on both the numbers and lettering. Regarding value, I am afraid that I will not be much help. According to my Krause, this coin is listed as $5 in fine and $8 in VF.

One thing to really note is that there really is not as much of an appreciation for error coins outside of the US. In fact, some types of coins, especially from colonial states from the 18th and 19th centuries, are hard to find without errors. So finding an error world coin does not necessarily mean that it will carry a higher premium
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I think I see what you're referring to. Having a few 19th C. coins with doubled dies, re-engraved letters and RPDs to compare, I think this doubling is due to the minting process. It might be similar to MD, where the die slipped or the planchet sheared during striking. I don't see the usual separation I'd associate with a doubled die. Something I do see is a very worn die, particularly on the obverse where the outer edges of the legend are distorted and worn outward to continued strike pressure. Great example of an advanced die stage, with a large crack from the rim, through BADEN and to the portrait.

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