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Could This Medalet Be A Fake?

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 Posted 10/27/2009  11:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

Buying some pennies from someone the other week, I got this in my lot. Now I don't know much, infact I am very new to medals, medalets, etc...

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I checked out Google (as one does) I found this page:
http://cas.awm.gov.au/heraldry/REL31083

The info given says:
Medalets like these were produced to raise funds for comforts for Australian troops sent to the Boer War. This particular medalet was issued in white metal, gilded bronze or silver, the silver version being the highest priced of the three.
Now as you can see the one I have looks to be made from copper.
As I say, I am really new to this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Jacko

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 Posted 10/28/2009  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jacko, Bronze is 97% copper, so that part checks out. Not sure about the gilded part though, could have simply worn off after all this time. The hole may mean it was worn as jewellery, helping to remove the gilding. Assuming this is the gilding they are talking about.

There is also a technique of preparing bronze to give it the 'appearance' of gold, which is called gilt bronze. Again, time will diminish this effect.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  04:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's gilded, or at least, it was. If you look in the crevices and protected areas on your medal, you can still see the yellowish remnants of the gilding. It's particularly noticeable around the horse's legs and behind the horseman's hat.

It's quite common to find "gilded" medals where the gilding has worn away, or otherwise been removed. Naturally, an item with it's gilding still fully intact is worth more.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jackool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sean: The hole is from the ribbon, it was originally given with. But I don't have that or the hoop. The site said many used them as jewellery, I can imagine why. They are nice especially the Veiled head Queen Victoria. I always loved that portrait. Also, I'm not terribly good with metals, so I had no idea that Bronze had even any Copper, let alone 97% of it being Copper. Thankyou to for that bit of info. Will definately come in handy in the future =o)

Sap: I see what you mean, I can see it now. (Sticks out like dogs b@||s!!) Thankyou for pointing that out. Don't know why I didn't spot that, I guess I was overwhelmed by the Copper coloured appearance.

I really appreciate the help guys =o)


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 Posted 10/28/2009  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like that one! To my eyes, the lettering and design has the "right look" for that period.
Now that Sap mentions it--I see the gilding too.
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 Posted 12/09/2009  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, when you see the word "jewellery" in this context, think of the sort of badges, ribands, etc that we are invited to wear on ANZAC Day, Armistice Dat, etc, etc.
There were quite a few contingents from Oz to Seth Efrika: most were funded by the various colonial governments; but some were recruited "privately", such as the NSW Bushmen's Corps.
Back in Oz, there was some opposition to sending troops overseas [see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bournes_Higgins], and medalets such as this served to raise funds for comforts for the troops, but also for the wearer to align herself or himself with the orthodox politics of 1900.
So, you have an interesting momento of Australian and imperial political history.
Numismatics opens so many doors to us ...

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 Posted 01/29/2010  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are interested in Australian medals,
I would strongly recommend this beautiful book.
Your medalet is there under n. 1900/3, Price Guide A$ 15,-



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 Posted 01/30/2010  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the one I just sold (it is silver):
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 Posted 02/01/2010  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's quite a nose on that portrait of Vicky!
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