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New Member
United States
15 Posts |
I'm another "jojax22" victim.  Here is a final tally for my ignorance....... 13 auction = 13 coins Bids = $93.05 Shipping charges = $37.00 Insurance = $7.80 ( which I was charged, but the items were not insured ) Total investment = $137.90 Actual Value of all 13 coins = est. $7.50 His total cost of shipping= $7.45 Now I thought this guy was on the up-n-up ....... I mean read his "About Me" page ......... He's a wonderful guy !!!  Now, just taking the hit and moving on was totally out of the equation .... So I've spent the evening researching the internet and well ..... I now know who he really is ( full name ), I have his physical address( he uses a PO address in his ebay delaings of course ). I now have his home phone number and oh yeah, I even know his wife's name. And that's only part of the info I've been able to find. The world wide web is a powerful tool. I don't expect to ever recover a penny of my losses, but if this posting can keep him from claiming another victim ....... then my time today was well spent !! May God Bless those that try to make things great for everyone !!! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4589 Posts |
good for you finding that info just dont do anything wrong its not worth it and if you used credit card they may do something about it
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Valued Member
Canada
55 Posts |
Ok I see alot of crying going on as late... and it really is upsets me.
Where is your own personal responsiblity in this case? You know there is no law that says you are entitled to the best possible deal. You have no right to harass this guys or his family, if that is what you intend to do.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
It's nice that you went to the work of stalking the guy, but there's not a thing you can do legally with that information. I don't wish to seem unsympathetic, because that's not the case, but you committed the cardinal sin of buying before you knew what you were doing. The guy does private auctions, sells only coins graded by a fly-by-night grading company, doesn't combine shipping (although he plainly states the cost in his auctions), and he's selling stuff dirt cheap which he claims is worth thousands. Every point made between each comma in the above sentence would be an immediate red flag to any educated buyer. Any of that, singly, is enough to immediately cross the seller of your list of people to do business with. You're coming through this very well by comparison to those who have spent thousands learning the same lesson you're getting for a little over a hundred. Numismatics, and ebay in particular, is rife with dealers owning no moral sense, who will cheerfully take your money and run. ebay is just the easiest place for them to do it. As you know now. Again, I'm not unsympathetic. I've learned my own lessons, and they cost a lot more than yours did. Have you, by some chance, given him the chance to make good on the deal? |
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Valued Member
Canada
55 Posts |
How does the guy maintain such a high feedback rate? Really? Do not let shady dealers smell like roses, ebay buyers do your job. Have you left this guy feedback yet? |
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Member
United States
1154 Posts |
I HATE THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS UNBELIEVEABLE AUCTIONS!!! Penny valued at 13,000! BULL!
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Valued Member
United States
254 Posts |
Personally, I see nothing wrong with signing people like that up for hundreds of magazine subscriptions.  People who prey on the uneducated and/or purposely misrepresent items for sale have few rights in my book. Now I wouldn't do anything illegal myself, but there is nothing wrong with asking for money back and letting him know that you know where he lives. I did this once when I got screwed over on an auction for a printer years ago, and it worked like a charm. Good luck, and welcome to the site! Regards, ~neuron |
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Rest in Peace
United States
2684 Posts |
First, welcome to the forum, 3rd-branch! We're always happy to assist inexperienced eBayers. Second, it looks like you've already learned your lesson, albeit it cost you a few bucks. SuperDave said it very well: you bought before you knew what you were doing. Consider the plight of those who jumped onto ebay and bought several thousands of dollars of fraudulent coins. They're in the same boat with you with no chance to get anything back. Education is the key to successful ebay coin (and any other category) purchases. I might add that a touch of skepticism and cynicism might be thrown in for one's self protection. Unless you've been provably defrauded of many thousands of dollars, there isn't much you nor ebay nor the law can or will do on small-time fraudsters like jojax22. Considering his feedback rating of 99.5%, this is indeed a very bad feedback rating for a seller with thousands of transactions. Always, always, always read a seller's feedback before bidding. A most useful tool for reading only a sellers negative/neutral/withdrawn feedback: http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs . With jojax22, notice his responses to negative feedback: his attitude is that he can do no wrong, that it's always the buyers' fault; in most instances, he's lied about not receiving a check or money order. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1091 Posts |
Wow, I have never seen so many "Rating Mutually withdrawn". Blackmail works a treat, withdraw or get a negitive. 3rd Branch, don't feel too bad, Getting ripped off on ebay is something everyone goes through. You have to be very careful on ebay, the sharks are out there and it gives the good ones a bad name. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
Hi 3rd-branch at the top of the main page of ebay discussions is a list titled recommended sellers, the sellers listed in this area have been recommended by at least one forum member who has more than likely had more than one transaction with the seller, and believe them to be upstanding and honest. Please check them out , and perhaps the bad one can be forgotten with a few good deals with some good sellers !! Rick |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
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Originally posted by StupidSid
99.5 is a bad feedback?
Yes, when the true record of the seller's performance includes almost 100 Neutral and Negative feedbacks, along with 32 mutual withdrawls. "Mutual withdrawls" are almost universally the result of ebay muscling a displeased buyer to accept some sort of settlement - in other words, the seller can put the boots to his buyers as he wishes, and only make amends if the buyer files a complaint. You'll notice that the buyer's comments on mutual withdrawls are almost universally negative. All of this, in this seller's case, has happened in the last year. As a rock-solid rule, I will not buy from someone who has managed to get 100 complaints, regardless of how much favorable feedback they have from people who don't know better. When a seller gets up into the thousands of transactions, percentages mean nothing. Look at Abon. This known ripoff artist has 99.2% Positive feedback, including Negatives from 473 different people and 1400 Neutral or Negative feedbacks. |
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Valued Member
Australia
205 Posts |
Hi 3rd Branch, This may sound strange, but this experience is probably the best thing that could have happened to you! Shocked at me saying this? Yes, you probably are, but read on to understand why. 1) This experience has taught you many valuable lessons. These include: a) Understanding first what you are buying. You will probably never again make quick purchases without doing some investigation first. b) Understanding the value of ebay feedback. Don't just look at the percentage. Find the negatives and neutrals and see their frequency. Most buyers do not leave negative feedback because they are scared that the seller will reciprocate and leave negative feedback as well. This often happens. Feedback is used in spite at times by sellers and buyers alike. c) Understanding how to read auction terms. This is especially important as you are entering a contract. In Australia, for example, if you "sign" a contract, at law you are deemed to have read and understood all its terms. d) Understanding how to read between the lines. Sellers sometimes hype up their auctions with false or misleading information. As a buyer, you have to be savvy and make your decision to purchase on the merits on the item itself, rather than place full reliance on the seller's hype. 2. $137.90 might sound a lot to you, but it is cheap compared to the lessons you have learned. Think about if you spend $1000 or more! Every week, I see some poor bidder spend a couple thousand dollars on a fake gold coin or artifact. If they had taken the time to research the seller first, they would have realised that the seller is despised by most ancient coin and artifact collectors out there due to his frequent selling of fakes and his total disregard for buyers. Finally, I hope this experience has not turned you off collecting coins. Do not let a dodgy seller ruin what can otherwise be an enjoyable and lifelong satsifying hobby. If you can, try and get a refund from the seller. He may not be willing, but you can always go through a dispute resolution via paypal (if you paid via paypal) or ebay. If the seller made misrepresentations about the item or was totally misleading you, you certainly have a case. Best of luck, Regards, Peter |
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New Member
 United States
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Sorry I'm late getting back to the board. First I'd like to thank everyone for responding to my post. The next thing I want to do is clarify my intentions to everyone. I no stalker, , I guess I was upset with the whole deal and wanted regain some power ..... and to vent a little. I re-read my post today and I thought ..... " man ... I think I was a little peeved" .... As for me .... I'm fine now, vented my feelings and I fine .... But I wish we had some way to warn those unsuspecting buyers that are bidding as we speak ........ the guy is hussling and that's all there is to it. He's good I'll give him credit for that. ( oh and I guess I gave him some money too ...  ) Morgan Fred ......... Great link you posted ..... THANKS!!!!!! Again ....... thank you everyone for your support ..... P.S.- The wife and I are going to our first coin show Saturday .... It's gotta be better than E-bay ... May God Bless those that try to make things great for everyone !!! |
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Posted 05/16/2006 12:20 pm
