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Full Bands Or Full "Split" Bands; Which Is It? -Photo Added

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 Posted 02/06/2010  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the term "Full Split Bands" means the bands are split, but may or may not be rounded. The top 2 TPGs, PCGS and NGC, use the abbreviation "FB" (Full Bands) which means the same thing - the bands are split. To most people this is good enough, all they want to see is that the bands are indeed separated.

However, to Mercury dime purists, there are degrees to how well the bands are actually split. Ideally, you want the bands to be rounded with high relief. Think of these rounded bands as viewing the McDonald's arches as if you were flying above. I hope that makes sense and I haven't confused you.
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 Posted 02/07/2010  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rkp - I picked up a 1944P from a grab bin a month or so back that comes in about MS63. The top and bottom bands are rounded. The middle bands are split but flat. So if I understand you right, it could be graded FSB, but some collectors may not be interested in it because they are flat. (I actually posted pix of this coin recently but because of my poor photography skills the bands don't look split. In hand, though, they are split.)

I've never focused much on Mercs, so I appreciate all of you sharing your knowledge. I actually bought it for the silver content more than the numi value, so I was pleasantly surprised to see there was a premium for FSB.
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 Posted 02/07/2010  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
StJoeBlues,

I saw the 1944 coin and it looks nice, and as you said the bands don't look split in the picture but I trust you since you have the coin in hand that they are split. Yes, some picky collectors, like myself, would prefer fully rounded and split bands over flat and split bands.

Also, if you are looking for silver content, many coin dealers will sell mercs in bulk depending on the spot price of silver (currently about 11X face). Please understand that I am not recommending investing in silver. All I'm saying is if you choose this route then I don't want you paying a high premium over spot value buying individual coins when you can buy them in bulk for spot or a tiny fraction over spot.
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 Posted 02/08/2010  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah if you are just looking to buy bullion, you can buy rolls of circulated mercs or silver roosevelts for barely over melt or even at melt. Better dates or high grade coins are worth from 2 to many times more than melt though.
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 Posted 02/08/2010  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rkp & ShadowCreator - Thanks for the info. Yes, I picked up that Mercury more for the bullion. I got it and a handful of others below spot. When doing that, I search for the best specimens. I also ended up with a 45P that graded out at MS63 or so.

I try to balance my silver stacking with my numismatic hobby, looking for the numi steal when I'm adding "junk", 90% silver to my collection. I've found out that a lot of times the 90% being sold as bullion hasn't been adequately searched for coins with numismatic value. It's possible to pull some nice coins out of bullion buys.
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 Posted 02/12/2010  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have wondered about that very definition, and have come to the conclusionthat they mean, The slanted bands are one thing, and the HORIZIONTASL bands are the other, ie "full, split bands. I don't see any other explanation for the phrasology, IMHO Hope this helps, (someone).
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 Posted 02/12/2010  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The term full is indicative of a two fold requirement on merc's, not only does it relate to the complete seperation of the bands from one another, but is also indicative of the strike of the coin, a fully stuck merc's bands will be rounded.

a coin that is less than "full" or "fully" struck may show varying degree's of flatness to the bands, especially in reference to the center set of bands, this is the place where the high point (deepest part of the die) of the obverse bust would affect the coin in the stiking up of the coin.
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 Posted 05/31/2010  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might help:
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 Posted 06/07/2010  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done Coop
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