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1997 Dbl Die!

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 Posted 03/26/2010  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find to show off anyway, but still, atleast look on the reverse to see if you find the first 97 WAM.
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 Posted 03/26/2010  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coop,
I generally find your analysis dead on but this time I am not sure. If you look at "In god We Trust" the secondary incused images are behind the primary devises and do not effect the original devise where it lays over the top. How could you lay down a second image after the mint strike and not alter the devise. The front of Lincoln's face is the same situation. How do you incuse the field in front of the portrait and not damage Lincoln's face. This seems weird. Jim
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 Posted 03/27/2010  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How could you lay down a second image after the mint strike and not alter the devise.


Start out by making a die that matches the unaltered coin. Then alter that die (by adding to it, not substracting) in the fields near the devices. Then use the die on the coin...the devices on the coin would be protected because they go into the voids on the die.

Easier said than done, but maybe it could work.

I would love to hear a plausible mint scenario.


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 Posted 03/27/2010  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I know you said the reverse is normal but could you get us a pic of the reverse,Maybe there is something on the reverse that would give us a clue
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 Posted 03/27/2010  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its in a flip but I might be able to make it work.
it wont be nearly as good as the first one though.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
playing with the colors a little bit I made it pretty good! this is NOT original color! and the brownish area is NOT dirt, its greenish white corrosion.


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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cent was struck once through a dislodged, rotated, late-stage die cap that experienced two shift-and-strike events before the strike that generated your coin. The incuse, normally-oriented design elements are characteristic of such errors.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so what could be the value of such errors
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anywhere from $75 - $150.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh! so should I dip it?
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never clean a coin. Certainly not this one. It's in decent shape and dipping will only make things worse.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, there's corrosion all over it. I know not to clean a coin but the corrosion looks horrible
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Copper-plated zinc cents don't respond well at all to dipping. The results are uniformly hideous.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way to go lafaa123! Nice score! Thanks Mike, you 'da man!
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it was good for a bad night!
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