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Locked
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its probably a fake. there aren't any blank punches at the mint. the design is supposed to b on the flat part. not the fatter part. What? |
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WHY in the world are some members automatically suggesting that coins are fakes? Hello....wake up...  Is it because they do not have the coin them self and are envy?  Why not try and look and think first?  so please lafaa123 tell me what you base your suggestion on? think about it... WHY would someone "fake" a 10 cent coin which at the most will bring 20 bucks? beats me !!  |
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From 10 cents to twenty bucks is a very nice profit. That coin looks to me as if it was deliberately altered post mint. Look at the reverse and you can still see a shadow of the original strike.
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Lafaa123 is not saying the coin is fake he is saying its not a mint error and that that is what is fake. Quote:
WHY would someone "fake" a 10 cent coin which at the most will bring 20 bucks? Erm? - perhaps as Tim says for a $19.90 profit! It looks like its been deliberately crushed between two other coins. The seller has 0 feedback and will probably happily churn these out to unsuspecting buyers till he/she gets caught maybe making a few hundred $s in the process. |
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I'll vote for post mint.
A clue would be the curve of the second "strike" is from a much larger coin/object, certainly not from a dime or dime die
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Agree with the above - looks like the edge design is different too.
Just guessing here as I dont pretend to know how the Canadian mint works but being from a manufacturing background I would have thought that these would be rolled together by machine after minting.
Anything thats out of shape to this degree would surely be picked up by the machine during that process. If not by a deliberate machine validation process then simply by the fact that it could not be processed.
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Good point bobby. Yes these things would get rolled, not like the old days of bags leaving the mint.
I guess it is possible that a mint employee could fabricate an "error" and spirit it out of the workplace. But if you were risking your job for it - you'd make a better/more expensive error than this piece.
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What puzzles me is "How does the extra metal escape from the collar"
Here is my understanding of this process...
"Coining presses are designed for any denomination of coin. Dies and collars are interchangeable and striking pressures are adjustable for the various denominations and metals. A circular piece of hardened steel forms the collar, which acts as the wall of the coining chamber, and one die forms the bottom. The dies impress the various designs and devices on the obverse and reverse for the coin while the collar forms the edge of the coin, flat and smooth on cents and 5-cent coins and reeded on the larger denominations. The collar, which is five-thousandths of an inch larger in diameter than the dies, is mounted on springs which allow slight vertical movement."
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Just wondering if there would be some kind of Blakesley effect on this kind of an error if it was genuine? John1  |
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Just wondering if there would be some kind of Blakesley effect on this kind of an error if it was genuine?
You'd need to get a partial planchet into the stiking chamber for the effect to show up. Looks like this one started life as a full planchet. |
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Well well............let me see............home made....yup, Calgary feed back zero.....bet I can give you a different name for this seller.....lol FAKE FAKE FAKE Why......look how out of round the area just before the "Second" strike is .....this is stretching of the metal as it is squished....hence HOME MADE curtisy of Larry.
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03/27/2010 9:03 pm
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Outside the collar and no design on the extra hits... Fake?  |
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cap die or blank plantchetts in striking area, notice no stretching....are you testing me? LOL how about this one fake?  Edited by coinsrfun
03/27/2010 9:29 pm
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coinsrfun, do you think that Larry also faked the 1921 nickels he had?
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Posted 03/27/2010 2:16 pm
