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72 D JFK Half

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Hello, after seeing halfwitty's post I thought I would ask this question.

No pics or scale with me.

I have a 72D which looks like it was struck on 40% silver. It has the feel, appearance as some of the 65 to 69's (with faint redness on the edge like some of the 68 / 69's). This coin looks nothing like a clad half (surface areas).

What is the best way to confirm this without spending whole bunch of money on buying scales or other investigative tools? Or is it even possible (40% silver)? Thanks

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I'd assume the weights are different, put it on a popsicle stick with a known clad coin, and see if they're they same.
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A couple of things here. First off, I have never seen any redness on the edges of a 40% silver half. Have seen a darker area. Anything is possible as a 72D is only 2 years later than the 70D.
As far as I know the 70D was only in mint sets. Best bet is a scale.
There are some inexpensive ones that work great and accurately.
If not, then just bring it along with a few other 40% halfs to a local jeweler. I'm sure they would weigh them up for you. That would be a start.
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If it were a 71 ceylon,I would say that there is a slight chance that it was silver but 72 is a stretch.There is a note in RedBook that some 71 and 77 Denvers were accidently struck with silver but the weights would be the way to tell.
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Here is a test that won't cost you much.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ver-clad.jpg
Place a one layer tissue (TP or facial on layer, pull them apart) and get a known silver coin. Lay the issue over both coins. If the coins are silver they will appear to look white. If they look like the example above, then it's not silver.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ver-clad.jpg
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tissue test is the best when weight difference is not definitive
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How about the sound of the coin? It might not be the most scientific method, but silver has a pretty distinct sound compared to clad.
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True, but tissue paper won't ruin the coin as much as a coin falling off a table.
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Thanks all. The tissue test is a failure. Here is why, I took 3 coins (dirty 64, clean 68 and the 72D. The 72D and 64 looked like clad.

Sound test - Did that. There is a slight diff in noise/ pitch. Granted this was dropped only an inch or less. I do not want to mess with it too much.

Indian1 - I am surprised that you have not seen 40% JFK's with red on the rim. On the JFK roll hunting forum many rim searchers have encountered this issue. That's why I look at each coin. Yes the dirty one's do have a black rim and I might give the jeweler a try.

One other possibility - If you go down the line of it being a clad. Is it possible for a coin to take the appearance of silver especially when it's been mixed / sitting with other silver coins for an extended period of time? A further possibility is someone at some point messed with this coin in the past chemically (no it does not look plated).

However, I tried something diff. I arranged a whole bunch of coins in bright light and then looked at it through my camera in various modes / zoom etc. The 72 D is looking more like a clad. But I am more like Pinocchio - may be it is may be it is not.

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A further possibility is someone at some point messed with this coin in the past chemically (no it does not look plated).
I agree. It is possible that there is environmental damage to the coin. A contaminate has given it the "look" of silver (whether natural or artificial).
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Check the edges for copper. That's the first thing I would do.
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