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1798 Or 1796 Large Cent?

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 Posted 05/24/2010  9:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add crushed22plain to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just got this coin today. It really looks like more of a 1796, I really need an expert opinion on this. Thank you!

Also good deal or not so good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWNX:IT
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mods, can you please move this to the main forum? thanks
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I see a 6.


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Q: Greetings! This is a 1798; S-167 variety. Die crack through 8 in date and from forehead to rim. Mine is here for comparison: http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s167 .jpg Best wishes, Tom Deck EAC... Continue reading
A: Thank you very much! I will edit the listing.


By no means am I an expert but based on the photos I cannot see a die crack through a #8. However the die gouge (if thats what it is on a coin this old) extending from Libertys eye to the rim at 2:00 appears to be on the coin you purchased.

I cannot tell if the reverse Cud over ST is on your coin. It may be there. It may just be worn.

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 Posted 05/24/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is definitely NOT a 1796. I believe that is a 1798 S-167 as evidenced by the die crack on the reverse through the E in UNITED. This one shares the obverse with S-166 but the reverse of the S-166 has a crack through the fraction that is not present on yours. The S-167 normally shows a Cud above the first T on STATES, but it looks to be worn away on yours. Many of the other markers are also worn away, but the die crack on the E is a dead giveaway.

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thanks for the opinions. I just really dont think its a 98, if it is a 96 its worth a lot more.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
c22p - I matched up your coin with a number of the Sheldon varieties and it matches none of the 1796s but matches up very well with the 1798 S-167. Like I stated in my first post, the amount of wear on yours erased a number of the die markers, but there's enough detail to tell that it is a 1798.

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It's a '98. The tail you see is on the top loop of 8 making it look like a 6. The bottom loop of the 8 is worn away, aqs are the rest of the numbers.

I have a '98 also. Nice to see another one! And yes, that's good deal. Mine is in better condition but I paid a lot more!

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Thanks a lot you guys, 1798 it is. Seemed like a great deal, but its worth it to me regardless.
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I also believe it is an S-167.
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I think you got a good deal. I think it's a 98, too.
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Here's a picture of an S-167. You can see the die crack on the obverse from Y to the eye, and the reverse on the T. Both match yours.

1798-Or-1796-Large-Cent???

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No question 1798 S-167. Crack from eye to the rim is clear and as STJoe said the crack through the E in UNITED to the leaf below the D is clearly visible.
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