1847 Crown

I fail to see andg's agenda logic,disbelief and why he bothering to try and make a scoring point.The facts are out there.
I do start doubting...seriously of his agenda.
If someone could explain the non fakeage's maybe I will listen.What we have...read the posts and take your choice.
Hopefully the victims have picked up here and send the guilty to the slammer.
Visiting days can be sorted I'm sure.

Seems like this Forum does'nt like Freedom of Speech, or else andy has a mod friend, i'll leave you to your own devices....

philidelphian......i dont think calling something chinese implicates an entire nation, its simply a term used to indicate a country of origin. an american car is a car built in america and not built by every person in america. if so then some of the titles on this forum need to be removed, ie:- american, canadian, british aussie etc etc.

I can only hope after all the hard work of the likes of Azda (not asda andyg)and the members of predecimal.com who have taken the steps neccessary to stop the seller continuing to sell copies of very expensive pieces on ebay, have enthused the original poster bryan10au and anyone else who has bought copies from this seller, to go ahead and seek a refund from the seller for the copies they have bought in good faith as being original.

they can talk all day about where these copies originated from with the seller, they can talk all day with the seller whether the copies implicated the entire chinese,bulgarian, russian or french nations, or wherever the pedantic wish to choose, but at the end of the day...........the intention of posters here (azda, peter1234, myself) are simply to alert forum members of this sellers copies of coins being sold at prices based on prices of original/authenticated pieces.
regardless of origin of the copies.....that action is commendable.

to the forum administrators here...the use of the words "get a grip man" is not considered rude here in the uk
but is often used jokingly amongst friends whos opinion differ.

I couldn't agree more, Azda also highlighted a dodgy 1763 Northumberland shilling I had bought (not from the same seller but from a well known auction house in Melbourne). I would not have spotted the problems if it had not been for his persistence and others with a like minded sense of justice for all us trusting buyers using the net.

This is such a pity.Trying to clear up internet fraud.
This is a coin forum where huge doubts have been put on one dealer.I can give you plenty more.
Innocent buyers please think twice and do research,get impartial advice before parting with large sums on known dodgy coin types.
Maybe speak to friendly forums where experts are happy to take PM's.(me it is currency farthings...copper/bronze post 1672)
I do like coin community as there are many excellent threads.Please everyone calm down.Us coinies Mostly are educated,polite maybe sometimes off the wall but not bad chaps/ladies.

We do indeed need threads where discussion about counterfeits happens - however, please note the term 'discussion', as opposed to shouting match or certain members putting others down for a differing opinion.




I know That wasn't what I was referring to, but thank you. Most of what I was talking about had already been edited out by various staff members. There's nothing wrong with the topic, and most have remained polite (thank you!), just please keep things civil. We know everyone here is capable of it

Seuk's post is the first one in this thread (now upto 6 pages) that has given us an idea of what to look for with these fakes, Prior to this we just have opinions rather than evidence. Even the sellers admission is no such thing, merely promising a refund to anyone who contacts him.

I asked for evidence, all I got was insults.