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1935 Old Spanish Trail

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 Posted 06/28/2010  6:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add New Mismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As a native Texan, the story behind this coin is an embarrassing one of greed and personal gain. (But hey, that appears to be the case with all of my coins. )

I photographed this one before sending it out for grading last week. I hope it was worth it. (I think it was. In-hand I'd give it MS-64, but then I don't know much about grading.)

Enjoy!

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 Posted 06/28/2010  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New Mismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I forgot to mention how much I actually LIKE the simplicity of this design. Don't think less of me for that.
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 Posted 06/28/2010  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed .... so I assume you have read the story behind this coin and the sordid efforts of L.W. Hoffecker to have this minted for his personal gain. Another tale of political intrigue for personal gain in this series.

For fun ...... did you also know that Mr. Hoffecker established in 1929 the so-called "Gadsden Purchase Commission" with the goal of issuing a USA half dollar ..... which passed through Congress but was vetoed by President Herbert Hoover when it reached his desk?

Mr. Hoffecker was not done yet ..... and pushed through Congress this coin .... with traditional Washington political lobbying and even a short visit with President F.D.R.

Hoffecker designed this coin himself ...... his initials can be seen at 5:00 on the reverse rim.

There are more stories of Mr. Hoffecker ..... he became President of the ANA and served as such from 1939 to 1941 .... and was also involved in the 'questionable' distribution of the Elgin Half Dollar.

You will see New Mismatist that the threads of stories weave throughout the series .... and the more you learn about the series the more you can appreciate your great gift of a collection.

A little more background to help you place this in context with the overall series ....

I will admit that Mr. Hoffecker was successful in his efforts to create a type rarity ...... this 1935 Old Spanish Trail with net mintage of 10,008 coins is one of only three 'type' coins in the entire series at 10,000 or less.

fyi .... the other two are coins you also have ....

1928 Hawaiian at 9,958 minted (you claim to have it ... but under wraps )

1935 Hudson at 10,008 minted (great coin you showed with my comments)

Sooooo .... enough of that ... to your coin ....

I agree that the simplicity of the design is an outstanding feature of this coin .... seems that LWH got something right ..... and this coin will always be popular for the design and type rarity.

Most were well handled at the mint and sold to collectors ...... so these are not hard to find in high technical grade ..... in fact the "Optimal Collecting Grade" for these IMHO is MS-66.

You coin is a beautiful example of LWH personal greed ..... the few bag marks and scratches on the reverse will hold it back from a super-high grade ..... but I would not be surprised to see it come back at MS-66 .... the fields are absolutely gorgeous and clean.

At MS-65 Numismedia has this as a $2030 coin.

I say it was worth it to send out to a TPG.

Let us know how she comes back.

Enjoying your coins ..... but might take a break in replies to search some nickels.

David

Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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Yeah, Hoffecker may be established in "coin history" as a villain of sorts, but he did leave behind this nicely-designed coin.

And as to grade and value, I had no idea that this was one of the more valuable commems. It will certainly find a place of honor in the collection, but more for the aesthetics than the potential value.

Perhaps I'll make a trip to the SDB so I can snap some pics of the Hawaiian for you. Maybe. :D


Thanks again for your insights, David.
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 Posted 06/28/2010  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No worries .... pleased to help as best we can ...

You can view my blast white MS-64 Hawaiian here ...

https://goccf.com/t/66943

David
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 Posted 06/28/2010  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New Mismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. That is one nice-looking Hawaiian!
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 Posted 07/10/2010  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New Mismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the (non) grade is in.

99 - PVC Residue


Should I send to NCS for "conservation?"
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 Posted 07/28/2010  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please do not become discouraged ...... it's the nature of TPG today to be .... well ... tough on raw coins.

I was truly enjoying your coin-a-day photos ..... and miss the pleasure of sharing in the spirit of helping.

As to this one ..... I know nothing about PVC residue conservation ..... hopefully someone else can speak up on that topic.

Show us some more coins I say.

David
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 Posted 07/28/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i vote yes for professional conservation.
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Thanks, guys. I've set this one aside along with a handful of others for "conservation" by NCS. I'll try to get them out in the next week or so, and I'll post back the results.

I haven't had time lately to take any more photos, but I'm hoping to carve out some time this weekend. Look for more coins soon!
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I just joined recently and came across this thread from a couple months ago. Beside wondering how the conservation might have turned out, I was reminded of the only commem I have which was also returned by PCGS in a body bag.

1935-Old-Spanish-Trail

I don't recall all the diagnostics for the counterfeits of this issue, but understand they come both cast and struck like this one.

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