Knowledge Is King?

The second photo of the rimmed coins looks like the one I posted a while back on VW. If it is the one I am thinking of it is real. I never saw any solid reply on VW on my coin. "from memory" I think a few said cast coin!

Great thread Zee

Thanks Zee,
2 days from a very warm spot, you can guess and it's not Cleveland. Changing two front wheel bearing assemblies, and a ring and pinion in my truck. I will go and pull it out I have not looked at it for some time.

Coxe Had this as a Vam-6 I am still not sure. It has the High 6 but this one has a lot of die ware and lacks the bump under the (A)

Okay Gene old buddy, I have found a coin. The coin is an 1809 CBH. The important thing to understand about this coin is that it was struck on a rudimentary screw press, not the Morgan & Orr.....There are practically no similarities in the two presses, the possibilities of errors are virtually limitless on CBH as a result. The Morgan & Orr eliminated the possibilities of certain striking errors, and the tilted die which caused the denticle impressions on this CBH was one of them. We will get into that more if necessary, and to whatever depth that will satisfy your curiosity.

First of all though, take a long hard look at this CBH. Notice how the obverse die is afflicted with a severe radial crack. Notice now how the reverse die is characterized by denticle impressions (in the same corresponding area), three or four rows of them.

Keep looking, noticing now that the rows of impressions are 'parallel' to each other. Is this the same effect that you see on Morgan dollar denticle impressions?

Look again, this time at the 'number' of segments in each row, (you probably cannot see it very well because I could not scan it very well, but) let me assure you that each row contains between 14 to 17 segments in 'unbroken' sequence. Is this the same effect that you see on Morgan dollar denticle impressions?

Ponder these things and tell me what the similarities or differences are as you judge it.

Z I built a few old cars in my younger days. I just could not bring myself too pay 1700.00 in a shop when I could buy the parts new for less than 500.00 and I have built rear ends before...so a front end could not be much harder... I was wrong a rear end has no engine over it or a transmission. :)

I do think that the rim die on this one suffered a break in the center on this one. I have 4 coins that need too go to Leroy I will add this to the package and see what he thinks.

AGAIN GREAT THREAD ZEE!! AND THANKS GENE FOR LETTING ME KNOW ABOUT IT

Picky, picky, haven't you ever heard of using your imagination? Granted, the denticle impressions (or milling, as it is referred to on these early things) is of a different shape, but that is neither here nor there. I want you to focus on the arc that you mentioned earlier, the parallel relationship of the rows, and the number of segments in each row.

I was really trying to use my imobile immagination and Russ thru that monkey wrench into the works, hit my head and all I could see was stars and a greasy CBH I'll copy this and put it on the big screen to see those teeth..