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Found 1974-S ?

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 Posted 08/10/2010  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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you could always soak it in acetone and see if the mintmark falls off.




OR a butane torch may also have some effect.


At least you would get some nice toning that way
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 Posted 08/11/2010  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm 22.3 grams? Too light for silver, about right for copper nickel clad. This might be worth a closer look. I did say that they didn't make copper nickel clad 74 S business strikes BUT officially they didn't make them in 1973 either. Yet there is a single coppernickel clad 1973-S known. It was found in a 40% silver government envelope. Somehow a rejected copper nickel clad proof planchet got mixed in with the 40% silver business strike planchets. If it could happen in 1973, it could happen in 1974 as well.

Second possibility is a Chinese counterfeit.
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 Posted 08/13/2010  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking of fake S mint Ike dollars, here is a 1971-S picked up in Dubai- https://goccf.com/t/69937

Edit: Not to say that the OPs coin is counterfeit, just pointing out that S mint Ike counterfeits do exist. I do find it quite interesting that it is of a similar weight to a clad planchet
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 Posted 08/13/2010  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before you do anything destructive to it.
If it is on a Copper Clad Planchet
It could be an off metal strike. They are known to happen
in the Ike series. Like the 1974 D Stuck on a 40% Silver Planchet.
Very High Dollar error. Contacting Rob Ezerman over at the Ike Group
http://www.ikegroup.org/
and arrange to send him detailed photos might be a real good idea.
The guys at the Ike Group have been studying Ike's for quite a few years and Rob has a new Eisenhower Book coming out possibly in November.

Good Luck with the find I hope it is a Great one.

Terry
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 Posted 08/17/2010  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i put the coin in a safe spot. What is Rob Ezerman's email?
I would just like to send him this link to this topic.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i will get back to you on my results with this other group...
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 Posted 08/18/2010  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coincollector123,

I contacted Rob Ezerman of the Ike Group.
And he is looking forward to hearing from you
about this coin. May be something simple May be
something Great. That is one of the cool things about Ike's
You just never know until you have it checked out.
Would be very cool if a Business Strike Planchet accidentally
ended up in the Proof Production Line.
Here is Rob's e-mail address

Rob Ezerman
Doctortrucker at aol dot com

--E-Mail address altered by the Staff

I hope for the best, Keep us updated

Terry
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 Posted 08/18/2010  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Would be very cool if a Business Strike Planchet accidentally
ended up in the Proof Production Line.

If the coin is coppernickel clad then it is a proof blank that ended up in the business strike production line. If it is silver then it is just a normal business strike for the year.
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 Posted 08/18/2010  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i will email him. It doesn't weigh like a silver piece but has the details of a business strike. just sent email.
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 Posted 08/19/2010  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 19Lyds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"If the coin is coppernickel clad then it is a proof blank that ended up in the business strike production line. If it is silver then it is just a normal business strike for the year."

The only problem with this statement is that pesky "S" Mintmark which unfortunately, didn't exist on the business strike line.
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 Posted 08/20/2010  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The only problem with this statement is that pesky "S" Mintmark which unfortunately, didn't exist on the business strike line.

In San Francisco it did.

In 1974 at San Francisco there were three lines, a copper nickel clad Proof production line (These went into the six coin proof set). A 40% silver proof production line (These were the "Brown Ikes".) And a 40% silver business strike production line (These were the "Blue Ikes".)

So a business strike copper nickel clad 1974-S would be a proof planchet (from the first line) that got into the business strike production line.
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 Posted 08/20/2010  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
does anyone know how many lines are on the reed (side)?
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 Posted 08/20/2010  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CEOcoinshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just can't see someone messing with the mintmark on this coin... it's value doesn't warrant all the work?
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 Posted 09/30/2010  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at ike group and they offered to have it piggy back on their submissions to a grading company. should I send it to them to have it looked at?
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 Posted 09/30/2010  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I looked at ike group and they offered to have it piggy back on their submissions to a grading company. should I send it to them to have it looked at?"

coincollector123,
Personally I would not have a problem shipping my entire
collection of Ikes to Rob,Bill,Brian,Lee,Andy or any number of the members
of the Ike group. Great bunch of guys that are very dedicated to
studying Eisenhower dollar's.


Just My Humble Opinion

Terry
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