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Valued Member
United States
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Dear community,  Does anyone know the likely numbers of proof examples of the 1799 farthing. I see very rare posted but just how rare is a near gem example as per picture below? Thank you for any enlightenment you can give. It would be nice to know if it is rather special or not.  Edited by patersc
08/14/2010 01:54 am
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I rarely succumb to the sin of envy, but WOW!!
That is beautiful
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Moderator
 United States
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Beautiful coin, no idea on the number of proofs though.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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There are no records of the quantity of proofs struck but they are quite freely available at around the £300 to £400 mark.
Very Rare in Peck is no indication as to numbers, it just lets you know that there aren't that many believed to have been minted. Not much help I know!
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you very much for your replies. I thought it a rather lovely little coin. I like the bronzed finish. I just wondered what very rare meant if there are no benchmarks so to speak. I guess they must just judge on their experience of the market. NGC and PCGS only have very few graded 2 64s and 2 65s. I wonder if any British grading companies like CGS have several more. Again thanks.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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What a beaut!
Brilliant coinage right there.
TheKid!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great looking coin. I'd love to pick up something like that someday!!
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Oh my that is beautiful coin, I wish I had it in my collection. Maby one day I will, How much did you pay for it?
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Valued Member
United States
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Very nice piece! I would love to see some high resolution images of that one.
I think a bronzed 1799 proof farthing in that grade is quite special. My experience is that a 1799 proof farthing (copper or bronzed) comes up perhaps half as often as an 1806 with some of those being patterns, restrikes or gilt examples. A beautiful 200+ year old coin that's among the highest graded-What's not to like!
yarm
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Fantastic coin! Wish I had a 1799 as good as that, nearest I have is a proof 1806 Irish
www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk
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New Member
United States
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That is a very fine coin there you have sir. Very few of the proof coins of that grade exist today. Many collectors would love to have that coin.
I myself have also looked for information on the 1799 1/4P Farthings. I recently purchased a very nice one myself from a British dealer. The one I bought though is a 1799 British PF65 BN #1276 Pattern coin. Graded by NGC so it is one of the only two PF65's known to date. Not sure though if the other NGC PF65 is a pattern coin though.
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01/23/2011 12:37 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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It seems odd that your bronzed PF65 farthing of 1799 (P-1276-a late SOHO proof) is listed with the patterns, restrikes and off-metal coins by NGC. Meanwhile, the only other bronzed PF65 of 1799 (P-1277-also a late SOHO proof) appears with the regular proof issues of that year.
Anyone understand Peck/NGC well enough to explain why this is so?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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a bit of history: this was the first English coin to be denominated.
a question: I wonder what "bronzed" means ?
The British used copper until the 1850s, when they followed the French example and shifted to bronze.
Nice looking coin: Britannia was a great icon.
Peter in Oz
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03/23/2011 12:03 am
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Valued Member
United States
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A few snippets from Peck:
"So far as the coins are concerned, a "bronzed" proof consists of artificially bronzed copper, whereas a "bronze" proof, examples of which only occur from 1860 onward, consists of the alloy bronze."
"Bronzed copper pieces were similarly struck on copper blanks which had been previously patinated to a bronze colour, which varied from a chocolate tint to slightly darker shades of brown."
"Apart from its rather pleasing appearance, bronzed copper has the advantage of retaining its colour practically unchanged and this is the reason so many medals are treated in this way."
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