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 Posted 08/08/2006  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I missed all the fun .. Oh well excellent Info and comments by everyone.. I have lived alot.. and churchill is one of my favorites as well even though that paticular crown is quite common an not worth a whole lot I try to collect everyone I see..

I just love Churchill's Speech exspecially the way it is done by Iron Maiden.. I have some srious rock trivia for any one who is interested all british groups
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08/08/2006 12:20 am
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 Posted 08/08/2006  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That could be quite good in the general forum Scout Jim, I'm a bit too eclectic musically so I have no real strong base in any genre to work from. Therefore whilst I might know some questions, pound to a penny, I wouldn't know them all!
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 Posted 08/08/2006  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it just me or do I see similarities between Mr. Churchill and Hitchcock? I know that sounds stupid but, the bust of Churchill brought to mind Hitchcock. Were their personalities similar? I mean NO disrespect to either gentlemen!
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 Posted 08/08/2006  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They do look similar
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 Posted 08/09/2006  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen a few doctored (with felt tips) Churchill Crowns and if you put him in a big collared shirt and some shades on he looks like a 1970s Elvis.
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 Posted 08/09/2006  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Ętheling

I've seen a few doctored (with felt tips) Churchill Crowns and if you put him in a big collared shirt and some shades on he looks like a 1970s Elvis.

Oh my![:p]
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 Posted 08/09/2006  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish there was better recognition for Lady Jane Grey who was Queen for 9 days before Princess Mary marched in and claimed the throne as Queen Mary I and promptly had Jane's head and that of her young husband, chopped off. I think I have only seen her on one "modern" coin that was part of a set on the Queens of England put out by one of the counties of the West Indies.

How many here know the story of the 16 year old Queen Jane and her 18 year old husband?

Who was she and how did she come to be Queen of England even if only for 9 days?

What coins has she been featured on?
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 Posted 08/10/2006  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I always looked at it that the Earl of Northumberland married Jane off to Guildford and stuck hwer on the throne against her own wishes. Mary had every right to march in as it was her throne afterall that Jane had stole.

Actually Mary didn't execute Lady Jane Grey straight away, I don't think she particularly wanted to either. Sure Northumberland got it, but Mary abstained from executing Jane for a while, I think it was 1554. Which was the same year as Wyatt's revolt, which was a revolt over the Spanish marriage.

Having a potential rival Queen sat around imprisoned and having people rising up willing to support her causes a great deal of problems and there's only one way to solve it, remove the potential Queen. Elizabeth I had the exact same problem over a decade later. Although Elizabeth was more of a ditherer and it took her 20 years to finally take the plunge.

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 Posted 08/10/2006  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that info on Lady Jane. I was under the impression as King Edward VI 's cousin and a Protestant, Edward named her as his successor (sure with the pressure of the Earl). I did not know she was kept imprisoned for some time after.

I agree Mary had the right to the throne and poor Jane was just a pawn in a Royal game for power. I find it a sad tale all the same and she is never referred to as Queen Jane. Maybe she was not entitled to be called that but she is described as Lady Jane Grey, Queen for nine days.

Just found an interesting though not completed site on her. http://www.ladyjanegrey.org/index.html

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 Posted 08/10/2006  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No don't get me wrong I do feel sorry for Jane. I just regard her as ever having been the Queen, I don't think a majority of nobles actually proclaimed her as such, and nor was she crowned. There's some argument over whether Empress Matilda was ever queen of England, she should have been but she wasn't actually anointed and crowned and that counted for alot in those days.

But there's arguments on both sides of the fence over that, because Edward V was never crowned but he is considered king because no one opposed.

I can't be certain but in Tudor England, sucession couldn't really be decided by a monarch, the God given law was that the sons would succeed eldest to youngest and then it would go to the daughter's eldest to youngest. Regardless of whether a king insisted other wise or not.

Edward probably would not have wanted Mary to succeed because he knew what she'd do, but that didn't stop her because she had the support of the people because they believed in the God given rule of primogeniture. I reckon though I can't prove it, that Lady Jane Grey was probably not too popular with the country at large. Remember the majority of the country was staunchly Catholic even in the 1560s and 1570s.

Protestantism took a long time to take root. Notice how fast rood screens went back up in churches after Mary's accession! Many were simply hidden, not destroyed except in some Urban areas like London where Protestantism took hold quite quickly. Lancashire was the last county to convert.







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 Posted 08/10/2006  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And later in the story - "The Church of England"! I find English history fascinating although they sure had a thing for removing heads! The Tudors certainly were an interesting group weren't they..then...The House of Windsor. I find it sad in a way that the Queen/King is just more or less a "figure-head" in present day England. Atleast, they have retained the pomp and circumstance which England is so well known for. The big question now...Will Charles ever be King?
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 Posted 08/11/2006  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by dsking

The big question now...Will Charles ever be King?


That is the million dollar question. In my personal opinion, I don't think he will. I think they are grooming William for the throne. But that's just my opinion.
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 Posted 08/11/2006  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The answer to that question all depends upon whether Elizabeth outlives him or not. If she dies before he does then he'll be king.

The media go off trying to sensationalise things, anything to give themselves a story really, they keep trying to suggest that Elizabeth will abdicate like some European monarchs have been known to do. But since she's only a figurehead what's the point in that? If she was running the country and developed senile dementia or something then yeah she probably would, but as it stands she says she'll be Queen until she drops. Charles has long been groomed up for the role so I think he'll succeed.

The bigger question is will he be Charles III or George VII? I personally hope Charles III because I'm sick to the back teeth of all the Georges, but apparently they are considering George VII not only in reverence to his grandfather Geo VI, but also because Chas III might remind people of the Stuarts. And a bunch of Germans that kicked out the Scots family in the first place wouldn't want that would they?

Strange indeed.


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 Posted 08/11/2006  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ętheling, I agree with you. Elizabeth has long said she will remain as Queen until her death. If Charles is still alive, then he will succeed. Just look at how they have integrated Camilla into the Royal Family so he doesn't have to abdicate.

And I hope he will also take the name of Charles III. We have had too many Georges, Edwards, Henrys and Williams. A Phillip would be nice also in honour of his father, LOL.

As for uncrowned monarchs, we had the case of Edward VIII who ruled uncrowned in 1936. On the web site for Lady Jane Grey, it said she was crowned in front of the Council in the Tower though I feel it was not the official Coronation.

Does anyone recall the coin set of Queens of England where she was featured on one of the crown sized coins? Or perhaps it was in a small cameo with each of the other Queens.
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 Posted 08/11/2006  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wayne,it has been reported that Prince Charles will become King George VII upon his accession.

Simon,Queen Jane did not steal the throne from Queen Mary I.King Edward VI made Jane his heir.It was Queen Mary I who usurped the throne,just as King Stephen did when he stole the throne from Queen Matilda.

Aidan.
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