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1960 D Large Over Small Reeded Penny - Rare Error ?

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 Posted 12/24/2010  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you know if the Denver Mint was using an open collar in 1959-1960? I saw an article that they did use them at one time but, it did not say when they stopped using them...Thanks again!
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 Posted 12/25/2010  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stelios to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send it to NGC and let us know what they say
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 Posted 12/25/2010  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your article was wrong. Open collars ended with the screw press at Philadelphia in 1835. The Denver mint didn't open until 1906.

Nobody here is saying that your coin gained its reeding at the mint. Nobody is saying it is unlikely but possible. It is NOT possible. End of story. Waste your money, send it to a grading company so THEY can tell you it's altered, and let's move on.
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 Posted 12/25/2010  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This "input" is a reminder of when I joined this "family forum", I am appalled at the manner in which members have spoken out and "had fun" at this new member's expense, as seen.
I believe certain people here are very knowledgeable and have a degree of intelligence along with their experience, I was ALWAYS taught "It is not what you say, but HOW you say it.... I really was NOT expecting that members would be speaking out in this manner, NO matter the direction of, or the topic being discussed, I would think certain, called "experts", would have the ability to communicate their " expert opinions" in a manner in which they would like or have used on them selves. It almost sounds like some very grouchy, people being very rude.IMO........ Welcome MicMar, to the family.......Merry Christmas.
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 Posted 12/25/2010  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Do you know if the Denver Mint was using an open collar in 1959-1960? I saw an article that they did use them at one time but, it did not say when they stopped using them...


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Your article was wrong. Open collars ended with the screw press at Philadelphia in 1835. The Denver mint didn't open until 1906.

I think the OP's post was read wrong (and I actually read it wrong myself the first time so I re-read it) and it wasn't a comment, it was a question. he was asking if they used open collars then not making the comment that they did. Then he said he read a article that was talking about a time they did use them but it didn't mention what date they stopped, that was why they were asking the question.


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It almost sounds like some very grouchy, people being very rude.IMO.

We have said it time and again that when you are online you can not hear the tone that the people are using so it is easy to take certain comments the wrong way because a person usually goes by the persons tone of voice. The same comment cant be said exactly the same in different tone of voice and have entirely different meanings
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 Posted 12/25/2010  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I pretty much agree with everything morgans dad says.I don't need to hear the tone in there voice to know what they mean.I can read.I come here almost every day to read about new errors found,new post,pictures of there coins.etc etc But I do refrain from posting because some folks enjoy belittling others with there superior knowledge of the minting process.Don't get me wrong I have the utmost respect for every individual on this sight and enjoy their knowledge but sometimes it is conveyed in a harsh way.Like I said ,I don't need to hear the tone in their voice, I can read
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 Posted 12/25/2010  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jasper62,Bryan1315, and morgans dad thanks for your understanding! I may not be as well versed as others in the community on coins etc. That is why I joined. To communicate with those more knowlegable on the subject. This community has been nothing but degrading and seemingly uninterested unless someone can get in a dig or smart comment. All I'm trying to do is research a coin and learn with the help of those "more experienced".
Coppercoins enough is enough from you. You've said on a few occasions now that you were done with this thread. Please be done with it then! Do not waste your time nor mine! I will do what I do until I'm satisfied. You have taken several things out of context and then badger me like I'm your child or something. I'm 50 years old and I am not a stupid person. I'm not here to satisfy you or anyone else for that matter. And you the so called pillar of the community, refrain from your wise cracks thay are not welcome!
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 Posted 12/25/2010  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not been to the mint to watch the mint process with my own eyes, but this is what I am reading.

micmar
You started out saying this was a cent with dime reeding and you said both were the same diameter.
I do think the experts convinced you that they are not the same diameter, and that a cent planchet
would not fit into the die set up for a dime.

The experts tell you that the U.S. mint strikes the obverse, reverse and edge, all in the same process.
If a wrong planchet some how got mixed in, when minting a different coin. It would be struck with the obverse, reverse and edge of that coin.

That is why they tell you it is impossible. There is no indication that the obverse and reverse of this
coin was ever anything but a Lincoln Cent.

Now you say that maybe the mint was making a foreign coin of the same diameter?

Are you saying that, if in 1960, the U.S. mint was making a foriegn coin of the same diameter as our cent. And the edge die (with reeding) for that foriegn coin was somehow set up with the obverse and reverse die for the Lincoln Cent. And if this is even possible, which IMO, I would say it is not possible, that you have the only example known. If something like this was even possible, there would be more than one. If there was a known error like this it would be well known and everyone would want one.

That is what I am reading on this thread.

What I am seeing is the reeding on your coin. IMO the reeding does not look like the quality that
comes from the U.S. mint.
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 Posted 12/25/2010  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coppercoins,,and the rest of the pros please tolerate, my repeated question about a magnet test on this coin, but would the rim need to be built up before knurling,OH YEAH have we seen a photo of the reverse,,at first I thought someone honestly believed they had a error,,someones having a time pulling my leg,,,I have others coins to look at ,,
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 Posted 12/25/2010  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find it interesting that if you search "micmar" on Google, let me do that for you, the very first entry is Micmar Precision Machining.
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 Posted 12/25/2010  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
YEP! I should have my head knurled,,,
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 Posted 12/25/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Micmar Precision Machining.
Huh.
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12/25/2010 11:42 pm
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 Posted 12/25/2010  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HOOK,LINE,AND SINKER!!
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 Posted 12/26/2010  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoever did the fake reeded edge on this coin did a TERRIBLE job. If you look at his photo you can see some point left, some are straight up, some point right, some are adjacent with no gap. Looks like someone with manual dexterity issues carved it up with an Exacto Knife. What a hack job...

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 Posted 12/26/2010  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regardless of whether Abe or some bored US Mint worker made this "coin", or who ever did, that does not excuse others for their rude, dis-respectful actions...........Treat others as you would like to be treated your self.
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