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1960 D Large Over Small Reeded Penny - Rare Error ?

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 Posted 12/26/2010  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rh13 one of the first things I did was put a magnet to the coin with no positive result. scubu & DVCollector
my screen name is simply the first three letters of both my first and last name...lol. I can assure you all that I am not a machinist by trade or otherwise lol... fenton nice observation but, if the incorrect collar were used to apply the reeding would (hypothetical) that also cause similar distortions with the reeding?
I do believe that I may have asked this question prior but I do not recall if anyone replied with a answer (maybe because I did not pose the question properly). When did the mint stop using open collars? What are the main differences between closed and open collars that prompted a change by the mint?
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 Posted 12/26/2010  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppercoins already stated that open collars ended in 1835, when they stopped using screw presses.

the term open collar means that the reeding, edge lettering, ect. was applied at a time different from the striking, making the process longer.

then the use of closed collar was invented and that means that the opening is smaller, when the coin was struck, planchet flow moved the outer edge into the grooves, thus giving the coin the edge design. so closed collars helped strike the edge, obverse, and reverse all at the same time.

THAT is why this would NEVER work without 1. the blank being a dime or 2. the penny would be capped and then folded over onto its self with the Roosevelt dime pattern on it
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 Posted 12/26/2010  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesteing how 5 pages of rephrasing the question continues to result in the same answer.....
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 Posted 12/26/2010  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another wise guy.............
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 Posted 12/26/2010  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Interesteing how 5 pages of rephrasing the question continues to result in the same answer.....


And on all the other forums he's posting on too.

Hey I found a photo that sums up the whole saga...

1960-D-Large-Over-Small-Reeded-Penny---Rare-Error-?

It just won't work......
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 Posted 12/26/2010  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dumprat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Micmar,

You have heard what the experts have said but you already made up your mind what the coin is. One thing I have learned is that if you are not sure what it is, as these guys BEFORE making up your mind. There has been many times I thought it was one thing but it was another thing. You have a few choices now,

1. Send it out to PCGS, NGC, or ANACS
2. Keep on posting it to places and eventually you will hear what you want to hear (even if it's wrong)
3. Just give up and agree with what the experts are saying



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 Posted 12/27/2010  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
scubu, why waste your time? move on... I already said at the end of the day "it is what it is and it ain't what it ain't"... dumprat, I post on other sites to hear something I may not have heard here(.) There are other "experts" outside of this community. some of the answers given by the experts here were "not always" accurate...and not not here to go around and around with people. Once I satisfy my own curiosity, I will be done.

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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add insideout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have to say I find it entertaining to see over and over again with the information provided by some of the most knowledgeable people in the business that it's not enough.

People ask for information and when they get it and don't like the answer they keep grasping.

Some replies may sound harsh but when the facts are the facts what more can be said ? When 15 people say the same thing. All 15 get sick of having to say it again. Annoyed bothered what ever. We are lucky that they offer the information to us for nothing. I learned a long time ago everything goes better with a little thick skin. I remember an instant where I got blasted for asking for an "Experts" opinion on a coin I was unsure about. You get what you get. Did I like the fact that I got blasted? No but I moved on. Hope as many have learned from this thread as I have. Good info on the presses and such.

Hopefully some day the OP will find the answer that he/she wants.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what expert gave you a " not always accurate " repley
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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You for one coppertop....trouble is that micmar doesn't know who the experts are...that's why we should be careful not to speculate unless we label it as speculation.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not a expert I never said the mint used a open collar in 1960. All I said was "what if" the mint used a open collar in 1960 ?
"WHAT IF " is not a yes or no .

Who,what,when,why and how are questions
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 Posted 12/27/2010  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Likely referring to this nonsense...


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Widdle a few pennies to dimes, You just your calls from 30-40 cents a day to 3-4 cents

Make 50 penny/dimes lay um out spray um silver now you got 5 dollars to mix in with change and spend.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dumprat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the only way you can end this then is by sending it out to get it authenticated. You will be out a few bucks but then it will be over with.

It is simply a novelty coin like other cents that have everything from states, presidents, angels, doves, etc etched into them.

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 Posted 12/27/2010  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why is this tread still here? ..... time for a lock and move on before internal feelings get hurt.

David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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 Posted 12/27/2010  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this thread would have answered micmar's queries better if he hadn't posted the pic. Most of us, me included, jumped in and said it wasn't possible to have an error like this. Period. We may be right.

But, if micmar had asked, without posting a pic or even mentioning the existence of this coin "Is it possible to mistakenly mint a U.S. cent that would have reeding?", would this thread have taken a different road?

That is what he has been trying to find out. He wants to know why this is or isn't possible.

It took me a while to realize this. On another forum, he's been getting a few answers that are more in line to what he's looking for.
Mainly the documentation/proof as to why it couldn't be a foreign planchet; why it couldn't be a dime collar etc..

When I first started collecting, I liked errors. I would post all kinds of coins with PMD thinking they were rare errors. It wasn't until I learned the minting process that I was finally able to understand why an anomaly was an error or PMD.

Some people want to see the information for themselves. I'm guilty a lot of the times when I see an obvious PMD coin posted by a newbie by throwing out an answer like " PMD" without an explanation one way or the other.

Because of micmar's persistence in his quest, I've learned a few things about the history of coin production while trying to provide the answers he was looking for.
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