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 Posted 01/10/2011  2:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It weighs 3 grams so it's copper. Any ideas?
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 Posted 01/10/2011  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That one sure looks like PMD (post mint damage) to me. It appears that someone took a drill press to the obverse. I think I can make out the "whirl" effect from a spinning drill bit in the field right of Lincoln's nose. I am not sure how the central design remained partially intact while the peripheral lettering and date was obliterated, but PMD is my guess:).

Hopefully, I will be wrong and it will turn out to be a nice capped die! Good luck!
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 Posted 01/10/2011  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How could PMD to that degree only affect the obverse?
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 Posted 01/10/2011  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe kind of like shinning a shoe?Maybe,could a buffing wheel do this?
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 Posted 01/11/2011  04:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could do that with a dremel tool...not saying that's what it is, but just giving a scenario in which you could deface the obverse and leave the reverse alone.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the opinions guys. I was really hoping for a definite answer (if possible) for the condition of the obverse.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A whizzing job gone a little too far As chugly pointed out, you can see the radial whirls in the right field going in a downward motion. They can probably be seen in the left field as well but the lighting is better on the right side. That tells me that a rotary device was used, probably a wire brush on a Dremel.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow I would have never guessed this was the answer. I am glad I do not even mess with errors because I would lose my shirt if I did because I have to be honest this one looked like some kind of capped die to me
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 Posted 01/11/2011  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I thought when I first seen it, Bryan - struck through late stage die cap.

But, then I seen the swirls and decided to wait for other opinions.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The marks on the right 1/2 of the coin could be finger prints. I agree the coin is damaged. But without real good images, sometimes you just can tell for sure.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's some closer pix. Hope they help.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
YUP! someone took an abrasive wheel to this. Maybe trying to make a hobo nickel type coin then gave up. WOLF
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