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Chinese Coin Origin | Replic Cash Coin

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 Posted 01/25/2011  10:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add benoldays to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

Just a quick query about this coin that was found in the middle of a paddok in New Zealand of all places. The quality of the markings, the fact that it has numbers on it and the overall condition of this coin lead me to believe that it wasnt minted in 1862

But I have been unable to find confirmation of this.

So far I have identified the markings to relate to this era:

Dynasty: Ch'ing (1644 - 1911 a.d.)
Emperor: Mu Tsung (1862-1875 a.d.)
Reign Title: T'ung Chih (1862-1875 a.d.)

If you could please give me information about how and why this coin came into existance I would be grateful. I am trying to piece together how it arrived in a paddok in the middle of no where.

Thanks

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 Posted 01/25/2011  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite correct. Chinese coins rarely have "Western" numerals on them to indicate dates until the Communist takeover in 1949. Taiwanese coins still don't use Western AD dates.

This is a "fantasy cash". The obverse inscription is just like that which appeared on coins during the dates given on the reverse, 1862-1875, during the reign of the Tong Zhi Emperor. It would most likely have been made no earlier than the 1950s.

"Coins" like this piece are often sold as a set of twelve reproduction coins, intended to illustrate the designs used on cash coins of the Qing Dynasty.

The other giveaway to their non-genuineness is the spotty background pattern on the obverse. The dots are intended to simulate the sandy background you get from a genuine cast coin, whereas these replicas are machine-struck.

As for how it got to New Zealand, presumably in the pockets of a tourist, or perhaps bought at a local flea market where imitation coins like this are often sold by the bowlful.
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 Posted 01/26/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benoldays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot Sap.
I will do some more research and see if I can find some more of the set.

Cheers!
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 Posted 01/26/2011  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum, benoldays!

Here's a thought! You could find real cash coins from different emperors and different provinces of China - it might be more rewarding! It is possible to find quite an array for a reasonable price. But again, just a thought ... you can totally ignore me.
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 Posted 01/28/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thomcollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Real cash coins can be really inexpensive and are fun to identify. I have spent hours doing it myself.
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