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Jefferson 1943/2 Need Help On This One (Big Pics)

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OK I'm stumped. I have a couple of 1943/2 Jefferson's and they are clear.
no doubt in my mind but this one I just don't know.

What say you experts. 43/2 or just a die chip?
I have pictured it with a regular 43 all be it a toned one.

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Its not a 3 over a 2. looks like a die scratch. Can you post a pic of the one that you know is a 3 over 2?
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Sorry, but all I see is a LDS normal nickel. The mark on the foot of the three is die flow going toward the rim. The 4 also has it. On the 1943/2 the line is in the other direction like this:
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thanks for the answers I suspected I was getting my hopes up to much either way its still a nice nickel.
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Not all is lossed. At least now you know what you are looking for.
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I just bought this, so I could see what to look for. I'm not so sure it's going to help me. Is it a 3 over 2 or someone selling with a good imagination?

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And while I'm writing my first post here. I collect Jefferson nickels from circulation. The old fashion way and I have a very good time doing it. After a few almost complete books, and one done, (1938-1961) I wanted to fill in some of the errors.
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Sorry, I really do not see it here.
See some possible polish lines also nearby.
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There is a well known variety of this coin that has a die chip in the exact spot your coin does. It fools a number of people. Your pictured coin is not the 1943/2.
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Thanks all and the nice image coop and coppernickeldaddy description of die crack, flowing. I was here and got busy, now I think I'm back.

I tried to PM or EM "thank you", but I'm too new.
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here is close up of a heavy circulated one I got awhile back top photo.

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the variety is actually a doubled die first hub is a 1942 second is the 1943 hub not a re-punched dated

the real one point to inside of the the loop of the bottom three

there is a similar looking die break; but the die break points past the inside of the bottom 3 loop


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Here is what to look for on this variety. The angles of the 2 in the date. The angle and the horizontal that is flat on that device.
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I thought I understood, now I'm more confused than ever.

The example of the "similar looking die break; but the die break points past the inside of the bottom 3 loop" by OcalaFlorida is the same image as "The angles of the 2 in the date. The angle and the horizontal that is flat on that device."

It's the same image! Look at the nick in the bottom of the stem on the 4. Or did I read the replies wrong.



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yes they are the same. I dont own the die break that is similar.

Was only saying how to determine between the two.

This die break is not the variety and is commonly mistaken

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Note the angle of the die break point outside the loop

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I don't think I would call that a die break. It looks more like die flow lines toward the rim. Note the 4 shows this at well on all corners. VLDS die on the normal nickel with the "X".
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that is the coin that some references refer too watch out for and to not confuse with the over date

Bernard Nagengast called it a spur like die break or die break in the reference Major Variety and Oddity Guide of United States coins from Frank G. Spadone in 1964 ..

I am not sure what spur like die break means and but
I agree it does not look like die break..

Hopefully this wont add to the confusion lol






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