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As A Seller? A Lesson Learned

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nickle nubber's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nickle nubber to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I auction a coin and let the buyer decide if he would like it shipped registered mail or regular letter mail as I stated in my auction. He chooses regular letter mail and off it goes.
A week goes by and I send him an email and ask that he leave positive feedback,He informs me he has not received it yet.We exchange emails for the next few weeks, still no coin.after a month he asks me what am I going to do about it, I tell him to be patient, the coin was sent.
He files a dispute with PayPal and they freeze the amount in my account.
I contact them and they inform me that no matter what the buyer agreed to ,it is the sellers responsibility to ensure a tracking # is available
and that a refund will be offered.
So now I'm out the money and the coin... What a way to work the system.As far as I know he has the coin and his money.
Even if you can prove that the buyer requested the cheaper postage you are still on the hook if you don't have a tracking #
Seller beware
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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing new. Been that way forever, on ebay and not. Seller is responsible to get the item to the buyer, period.
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chris12018's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can avoid this by offering $2.00 for shipping & send it w/ delivery confirmation for @ $1.53. Of course weight is a factor. You can print your own ship tags.

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nickle nubber's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickle nubber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mabye in the States they offer confirmed delivery ,but up here in Canada it cost's a min of $9 to ship registered. Thanks for your reply and welcome but I was venting.As I stated a lesson learned.
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td5173's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add td5173 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that's a bummer.
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Maineman750's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I insure everything because scubu is right...the seller is responsible. I honestly don't know of a better way to do business.
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Canadian-Banknotes's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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here in Canada it cost's a min of $9 to ship registered.

I know what you mean. It seems like a rip off to me.
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Peter THOMAS's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought plenty on ebay, not just coins, but I've never sold anything.
It'd be great if we had a level playing field.
Some factors that seem relevant to me -
the seller does not part with the goods until he has his money - there's no risk or downside with that.
The buyer pays ... and waits ... and maybe, waits some more.

It's just as easy for a seller to say "I sent it", and keep the goods and the payment;
as it is for the buyer to get a refund AND the goods, the scenario that NN raises.

So, is there a better system ?

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Fuzzy317's Avatar
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 Posted 03/11/2011  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tracking is great.

OT but related: I recently sent a large check to a vendor through the US mail, and according to the vendor it never was received. When I verified the check had never cleared, I called the vendor back with a tracking number and who signed for it. It was miraculously found and posted.
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03/11/2011 11:29 pm
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 Posted 04/03/2011  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cali_Nick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im getting ready to start my first auction on ebay and although its an unfortunate situation for you, I thank you for posting this.
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Wei Fun's Avatar
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 Posted 04/04/2011  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've sold a lot of stuff on ebay, but never coins. Most of the time, for low-value items, I don't bother with delivery confirmation, and I've never once had someone claim they didn't receive my items. Yet I've seen many sellers talking about their coin shipments never being received (or, more accurately, buyers claiming they never received them). Are ebay coin buyers more likely to be scam artists, or, for shipments where a person can see it's a coin, are postal employees helping themselves to a freebie?
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 Posted 04/10/2011  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crownman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I had a similar problem but as a buyer on ebay recently. I bid on and won an auction for a short set of Mercury dimes and they were clearly not the ones in the picture. So I sent them back, but didn't use tracking or delivery confirmation and the seller says he never got them back. I can't prove he did or didn't so now I'm out the money and the dimes. Luckily it wasn't that much money, but I've definitely learned my lesson. I gave him negative feedback because the dimes wouldn't have gotten "lost" if he sent me the right ones in the first place!
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 Posted 04/11/2011  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't fully believe that the seller is responsible to get the item to the buyer beyond shipping it in a secure, reasonable fashion. Ideally, if the post messes up, the buyer and seller should SPLIT the loss. I would do this with people I know. Not the way it works on paypal, however.
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Wei Fun's Avatar
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 Posted 04/11/2011  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But it works the same way with major retailers, shadow. If I bought a book from Amazon, for instance, and it never came, Amazon wouldn't try to split the difference claiming they shipped it, so it wasn't entirely their problem. The one time it happened to me, Amazon offered me the choice of replacement or refund, although I suspect most vendors would have a policy of one or the other.

The point is, if you buy something from a seller, you have paid to receive the item you purchased. You haven't paid merely for the seller to make best effort to get it to you.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samuel tan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My experience is the other way around.
I never sell anything through ebay. I bought a lot, or I must say I snipe a lot. Few times if the price is way low, the sellers acting stupid. They pretend they send the merchandise in the hurry, forgot to buy delivery confirmation, will never do that again. I knew their trick, they send my money back in the hurry. For something like that, I would like to expose their name in the forum.
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muddler's Avatar
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 Posted 04/18/2011  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had a similar experience with an ebay seller where after no coin was delivered he refunded my purchase and shipping with no question about delivery. The coin in question was considerable under sold for it's value. I'm sure he just said it was sent and is still holding it for future sale.
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