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 Posted 04/07/2011  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chriscoinmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1) making people cry seems like a reasonable approach (Sarcasm)
2) I dump no more then 2 boxes of coin at a bank a time, I put them right back in the box. Seems like the tellers like that better as they can put the box right in the vault as opposed to counting each roll and placing them in those metal coin roll trays
I never even thought of handing over 50 rolls of pennies to a teller outside of a box
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Maineman, Another great point.

@Xavier, It's okay, I love it. As long as you didn't intend to make the teller cry it's hard to not laugh at that story.

@Chris, I usually do one $25 box at a time and end up returning about $19 of it. I did say I was getting boxes, but I really am not. I just get 50 loose rolls at a time. I only used the term 'box' to keep it simple as it's a common unit for people to visualize. I've asked some of my branches to order boxes (which they can), but they seem to have no problems giving me lots and lots of loose rolls which I put into my own personal box. I've let them know that I want to make it easy and quick as possible on them, but they really seem to enjoy pushing their customer rolled coins on me and that's what they prefer. I've had good luck with their customer rolls, so at this time it looks like a win-win and I'll keep my supply branches happy.

Currently when I'm usually only walking out of there with one box it works. Soon though I think I might want to seriously order some *real* boxes though. I'm curious to see how Porschia in the dump bank will react to that :)
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never intended the teller to cry (i was a teller myself and know how frustrating customers could be), I was just pleased that the manager had to deal with path of confusion I left in my wake. I had so many nickels with me that I brought a friend along with me to help carry them in. We immediately dumped both buckets of nickels into the machine so they would be forced to count them.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm Canadian and get my US box of pennies from a US bank, take what I need and put all the change (cents to quarters) in a pouch they supplied, when I get back to the bank they put it in the counting machine and I start all over again. I did ask and they have their own shot gun rolling machine right at the bank. So soon I will have to get another bank because I will be going through the same coins again.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone starts looking at your pattern of turning in boxes, then getting the same thing, they might start questioning whether you're running some scam like shorting or slugging rolls.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i get boxes of nickels and pennies from several banks. I search lots of coins so I don't have time nor patience to roll them all back up. there is a free coin counter at a local bank near me. I'm wondering if they will get annoyed that I jump once every week or once every 2 weeks. they havent asked yet, but if they do ask where I get all my coins I am nervous to say that I am a coin collector because I dont want them to get annoyed at me.
also when I get my bank boxes I get nervous sometimes when they ask if I have a business and I say no, it is for personal. I bank at wells fargo. If I straight up tell them I get the boxes to search all of the rolls for rare coins, and that is all I do, will they become reluctant to give me boxes? or will they happily keep it up? I just dont want to piss anyone off or embarrass myself.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thehammer77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I enjoy the looking through but the dumping isn't fun, I live in a small town so I go to the city when I get the chance to dump (have 2 cities an hour away and one 2 hours away) or I'll do 10 rolls a week in my town if I'm stuck. Have no trouble gettting rid of quarters and loonies but dimes, nickels and pennies are a bit hard in the small town.
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Trent I did what you are doing when I first started roll searching, and they did catch on. They didn't really say much or do anything but it did get awkward everytime I would run some rolls or loose change back to the the 3 branches that I didn't get rolls from you would see the manager on the phone and than look at me. A few times I could read their lips saying ya he is here.

My advice is open another bank account with another bank buy at one and dump at the other.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your thinking way to much about this. WOLF
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 Posted 04/08/2011  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Furious, the next week I brought in 10 boxes worth of nickels I had searched through and dumped 20,000 nickels on them.


People with an immature attitude like the one shown here are the ones who will have every bank charging a % for cash in either direction.

You got "furious" because your employer didn't appreciate you sticking them with a year's supply of coins in an afternoon, and it sounds like doing it on company time? So you went out of your way to do something worse, this time wasting your time and another employee's, and ultimately a manager's time?

I'd have not only fired you, I'd have banned you from the bank.

Buying and maintaining those machines ("the machine broke several times") costs money. Using over an hour of your and the female employee's time not only prevented either of you from doing the job you were hired to do, but was just as real an act of stealing as if you walked over to someone's cash drawer and pocketed a fifty.

This hasn't touched upon the fact that a $3000 bag of halves or 20,000 nickels is going to require still more employee and machine time, plus material, to get them in a useful form, and perhaps a charge for taking them back to the fed.

And why did your bank incur this $100+ cost? Customer service? No, just so you could make money using their facilities.

Sorry to be so critical, but I want you and any others thinking like you to realize the bank is not there for your hobby/pin money. I've searched many a bag in my day, but even when I was several years younger than you, I had a bank officer explain that I could buy all the coins I wanted, and even swap them for different ones, but I couldn't just stand at the customer counter and check through coins.

Yeah, the tellers probably even admired the kid who had the gumption to cart around bags of coins on his bicycle, and I even got private access to the bag of silver halves in the vault, as long as I'd replace what I took with other halves. Paying them up to double face for all the silver certificates they could find kept them happy, too.

But I'm not 16 anymore, and neither are you. Time to put on your grown-up pants, and at least act like an adult.
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If I straight up tell them I get the boxes to search all of the rolls for rare coins, and that is all I do, will they become reluctant to give me boxes? or will they happily keep it up? I just dont want to piss anyone off or embarrass myself.


If you have to ask whether you're on thin ice, you prolly are.

If you happen to be a million dollar depositor, or have tons of money borrowed, they should be tickled to get you all the coins you want, and help carry them to the car.

If you're a regular guy who likes taking part of each paycheck in coins, that should be OK.

If your sole relationship is getting or dumping coins so that you can make a few bucks by finding valuables, then no matter that the tellers have been told to be polite, you might as well be metal detecting in their flower beds or panhandling in their parking lot.

Moderation is the key. Being excessive in any aspect ends up causing new rules that eliminate you and make it harder for everyone else.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
''I'd have not only fired you, I'd have banned you from the bank.''

I really didnt care what happened to me, before the dumping incident I had already been passed up for promotion and the branch I worked for hired several less experienced employees for substantially better pay than what myself and several other tellers were getting. No matter how hard I worked at my job I was getting no where with it. I would make more money somedays by simply looking through our branches coin machine and swapping out silver than what they were paying me. In my home town there are no less than eight banks within a quarter mile of my house and neighboring towns have similar numbers. I really didnt care about my job any longer or the relationship I had with the particular branch in question. To me I had nothing to lose, and the satisfaction of disrupting the branches business to gain.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps you were passed over because "I would make more money somedays by simply looking through our branches coin machine and swapping out silver".

If I could get even a minimum wage job that put me where I could make a substantial side income from finding valuable coins, I would think deeply about jeopardizing it.

Show of hands, how many would work at Coinstar for free if they got first crack at the incoming coins?
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 Posted 04/09/2011  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nah at first I worked very hard and was eager to please the bank in any way I could. I would work extra hours whenever asked, I would stay late and help other tellers with their cash box differences. It was only after I was passed up for promotion and discovering that they hired people for a substantially greater level of pay than I for the same job I held that my attitude declined. When you are more qualified and work harder than someone else with the same postion yet get paid less, it proves poorly for your morale.

I only started swapping out silver from the machines after I was passed up for promotion. My boss didnt want me doing it, but by that point I didnt care. Big banks make their money by abusing their customers daily, so I see no real reason in not being able to take advantage of a bank whenever possible. If a large corporate bank actually cared about their customers, they wouldnt be able to be profitable.
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