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Release Date Of 2012 Red Book?

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Tried looking online but found nothing. Do any of you have orders or any info on the release date?
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Probably in April 2011. They have been coming out in April the last few years.
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Typically released in April. Forum Mom(Susan) usually orders a case or two of the spiralbound edition to sell here.
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What does she normally charge per book?
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 Posted 11/10/2010  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2012 book? isn't this November 2010? why would you want a 2012 book? do you want to know what your coins will be worth in the future?
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lincolncentguy, they release the books in the year before what it says on the cover. This year's book was the 2011 edition.
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Why don't they tell us what the spot price of PM was as of the date that they estimated the values for all the coins?

With PM prices going up so fast, the values listed in the books are useless because there is no way of knowing what the spot price was when these prices were estimated.

If silver spot price was $17 when the estimate was calculated, and the spot is now $27+ then there is an approximate 60% appreciation. What portion of the price is based on the PM content and what portions on the Mintage, condition of the coin? It would be nice to be able to adjust the valuations as PM prices change.

These publications have lots of statistics, but as best that I can tell there is no consistent way of calculating them!

I also notice lot's of differences in the mintage figures published in the Red Book and Modern Commemorative Coins, etc. Do the mintage figures include coins that are in sets? Silver proof quarters are sold in sets and also included in the Silver Proof Sets. The 4 coin gold set mintage are usually not added to the mintage of the individual pieces. I read about people who break up sets to get rare coins- ie 1995W ASE

These inconsistencies make using these publications less valuable.
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I know in some years they have said what the bullion value was at the time. And if you look at some of the common silver coins in low grade you can tell from the prices roughly what the silver price must have been.
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That used to be true. In my older Red Books, those prices are in italics and state that they are based on bullion value. However, all of the recent issues appear to no longer do this (I am still looking though).
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I actually have many previous years of the Red Book on interlibrary loan and am attempting to see if there has been any correlation between melt value, inherent numismatic value, and total value of common date silvers. Even if the price of silver at the time of publication has not been available in some previous editions of the Red Book, I assume that this information can be found somewhere in the depths of the internet and am hoping to derive some solid data from my research. I still believe the Red Book to be an essential guide, but yes, this year has required me to do a lot of on the fly calculations when looking at coins because of what has happened to silver since the 2011 Red Book was published. The vast majority of silver coins derive their value far more from inherent numismatic worth than metal content so it's only ever posed an issue when thinking about common date halves and dollars.
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Is there a difference from the spiral to the hard back book? Also, I can't tell for certain if the Red Book includes known error coins: does it?
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Is there a difference from the spiral to the hard back book?

The internal content is the same, just different bindings


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I can't tell for certain if the Red Book includes known error coins: does it?

The only error reference in the RedBook is a general guide chart close to the back of the book. It has listings for off centers, clips, broadstrikes, etc for the various denominations along with a general value.
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