Help On A 1909 50 Cents

Looks like a better 12. Still has some decent details - if the top of the ear wasn't so blended in and mustache was a touch higher and had remaining beard outline, it would make 20. Basically the high points need at least faint outline to make VF. The coin you showed has a nicer reverse as well. Good coin.

Second question-
http://www.coinoisseur.com/GradingCoins.html

Decent site but pics are small . Edwards are hard to grade, I often find I disagree with slabs on these and tend to give just a tiny bit more weight to the reverse than I would with a Vicky because they never seemed all that crisp in the first place.

Canadian coins tend to have really sharp firm devices for the most part where US coins are all soft and round and look slightly melted to me. Take this into account when trying to define a grade. I think technical grading on Canuck coins is actually easier than than on their US counterparts.

Just visited that link. Interesting. I went back and forth
and my coin in hand is in some ways better than the VF20 pictured and in only one way, not. The beard on mine is sharper/fuller as well as the bust area etc. The moustache on mine is all the way up to and touching the middle area center of the nostrils and slightly fuller. The only con and that is even way better than the F12 (along with the rest of the F12 coin period) is the very top of the ear. Just a tad of the outline not complete. Kind of like a very near FSB on one line of a U.S. merc. dime. Now all of this is not taking into consideration the coins rev. At first glance I thought the obv. was much better than the rev. There is no pic. for the reverse of the coins at that site. 3 attributes at least as good if not better than the VF20
minus one attribute less than VF20 and all aspects much better than the F12 should at the least equal a min. F15 if not a VF20 overall. If indeed a net grade was to apply. Do you agree ? Wish I could sharpen up the areas I am talking about.

Yours is definitely not a 20 to me Indian, It could make 15 and I thought about that, but I honestly said if it were mine I'd call it a 12 because of the hard wear on the crown and that is the first thing people look at on these. I'm willing to bet that if it were submitted 10 times it would come back as F-12 seven out of ten times

I know you're comparing against that sites photos but they really aren't that great. I'd check images of graded 12's and 15's on ebay and so forth.

Thanks all for your patience and input. I may of jumped the gun on using just those photos at that site. I now agree with all, a no way VF20. The ear and crown alone take care of that.
Having looked at some other pics. I found of an F12 I can honestly say mine is a 15 easy. Noting no price range in that grade other than halving it at $200.00 which would be over the $170.00/$175.00 price anyway, I have concluded that a $150.00 price would be fair on this particular coin to the prospective buyer. How would this sound to you honestly ?
If that offer is refused then I will post it at that price on here for sale. With all of your help I can now grade and price the other single dimes, quarters and halfs that I have left. The rest I have already checked for grade/value and varieties/errors etc. Those will be sold as just silver. Those darn canadians :) Wait, my family is from there. I'm almost pure french !
Thanks all again. It was just a few weeks ago when I opened
up a big box of coins that my mom packed up for me to look at. When I saw whitman after whitman of canadian cents, nickels, dime, quarters, halfs etc. I said oh jeesh, this is going to take some time. Of course I hit the U.S. stuff first. Glad now I took the time and asked questions about the northern coins. Learned plenty already. Now I have to wait a while before getting the rest of the collection in hand. I know there are some large cent sets in there as well as some dollars somewhere along with other U.S coins.
I'm sure i'll be back on here in the future. Now I have to just double check any of the clad can. coinage before dumping it back into circulation down here :) There are some nice 60's,70's and 80's in there all denoms. Fun fun fun...

Noted. Thank you.
I am curious as to how many members out there own this year coin and if so could you please post some pics. of it. Actually I would like to see scans of the coin. Raw or certified. Does not matter. Grades of at least F12 through
VF20 if possible. Thanks.