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Steverino New Member United States 20 Posts	Posted 07/14/2011 11:00 pm Here is a 5 franc silver from Napoleon III reign - I'm pretty sure it's genuine, but it seems unusually clean to me. I can't tell, but maybe you guys can - could this coin have been cleaned? The detail seems pretty distinct - what condition do you think? Thanks! Steve Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16867 Posts	Posted 07/15/2011 03:24 am Very probably. Very few 150 year old silver coins remain tarnish-free, and nobody had any qualms about cleaning coins for more than half of this coin's existence. Perhaps more worryingly, I'm seeing what could be signs of wear - something I obviously shouldn't be seeing if the coin really were still in brilliant Unc condition. The pics are a little small to be conclusive. Any chance of larger ones? On the basis of what I'm seeing, I'd grade it EF. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Kopper Ken Pillar of the Community United States 3402 Posts	Posted 07/15/2011 1:00 pm There does look like wear on the wreath (obv) and the crown and other high areas. This would kick it out as an UNC. Look at it under a good magnification. Look for wear and any possible cleaning marks. KK Report this Post to the Staff
Namachieli Pillar of the Community United States 2120 Posts	Posted 07/15/2011 1:14 pm I could see this being AU. The details seem mushy, not overly worn. Could just be a weak strike. Its it was a strong strike and XF, you will still see center lines in the leaves of the wreath. If you can still see them, its probably XF then. Definitely and Old cleaning though. Likely a Dip and not a scrub. hard to tell from those photos, but if you dont see hairlines all over the place, just that flat dull look, it was just a dip. Better pictures I could tell you for sure. Report this Post to the Staff
Steverino New Member United States 20 Posts	Posted 07/16/2011 11:03 am All great replies - I'll see if I can't get a better picture done - The lines in the laurel leaves are visible w/o magnification, but there is one more interesting thing - the edge of this coin with the DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE is not clean like the faces - it is much darker, like it was left as is when they cleaned the faces. Would this be evidence against a dip? I will be selling this one on ebay and will mention in the notes that it has been cleaned at some time in the past - too bad, but I think it's still a nice coin. Thanks guys! Report this Post to the Staff
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