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You Vs NGC: 1830 Bust Half

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 Posted 07/17/2011  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ACE Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on NGC grading, I would say AU-53.
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 Posted 07/17/2011  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stars are a little light, XF45
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Hey ACE Mike - Just curious, but what are NGCs tendencies on bust half coins that you've seen?

I like this coin better in hand than the pic.. a bit more luster, and a more attractive toning than I could capture on photo.
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 Posted 07/17/2011  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe I did learn a thing or two at the summer seminar

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 Posted 07/17/2011  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-55 seems a little high for this coin, could be the small areas of remaining luster that brought the grade up.
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 Posted 07/18/2011  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ACE Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maprince,
I have found that NGC tends to overgrade a bit in the EF and AU categories, say by about 3 to 5 points. In the photos, your half looks like about EF-45 to AU-50, so I just kind of added 5 points or so to what I thought the grade was, and arrived at my guess that way. Came pretty close, too!
NGC tends to do a bit better in the AU-55 area - often their AU-55's really are AU-55. I think they are worst at about AU-50; there are a lot of EF-45 bust halves in NGC AU-50 slabs, coins that I consider EF-45 based more on a lack of luster (other than traces between the stars) more so than having too much wear. My opinion only, others may disagree.
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Perhaps the picture didnt do justice to the luster on the coin - and thus the dings.. I can actually see a decent cartwheel when rotating the coin.. I'd estimate about 50% of luster remains.. Pretty much all around the protected areas, and pretty absent from the fields.

Thanks for the observation ACE Mike -- it's great to take in the observations of everyone out there -- that's why I asked. I know to give a little more scrutiny to NGC busts in that grade range than some from PCGS... But again, that's why you always buy the coin, not the slab :)
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NICE!! Great score!
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BOY was I off.
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I think I need to visit the photography section to learn how to better photograph luster on coins like this.
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