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Is This An 1884 Morgan Fake

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 Posted 07/27/2011  8:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add calinka to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, a question about an 1884 Morgan mint mark O in VF conditions.
Diameter varies 37.74mm 37.78mm 37.82 mm.
Weight 26.85 Grams

A Morgan should be: Diameter 38.1 mm, Weight 26.73 Grams
so I am wondering if it's a real one or a fake.
Is this coin within a reasonable size Weight Tolerance?

Thanks

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The coin is actually more silver color then it looks in the pics the camera lighting turns out a bit of a yellowhish/tarnished finish.
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 Posted 07/27/2011  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pretty good to me. That is weird about the size difference but the weight is so close. Something looks a little weird about the denticles in front of the face. Hard to tell.
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 Posted 07/27/2011  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May be the photo, but looks cleaned to me. I don't see where creating a fake 1884-O would be worth the effort...
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 Posted 07/27/2011  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i dont think it is fake
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 Posted 07/27/2011  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me.
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 Posted 07/27/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hit it with a magnet
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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 Posted 07/27/2011  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks real to me. Probably cleaned like JackB said, but real.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not to mention it's in a heckuva lot better condition than VF. Cleaned, I think, but very nearly Mint State. Not a high-dollar coin either way though.

I think the dies were a little misaligned when it was struck - look around the southwest quadrant of the obverse rim, and northwest on the reverse.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OP-Price?

My concerns:
  • Yes, they do make fake common Morgans
  • Coin shows up in UK
  • Three different too-small diameters
  • Overweight?!


It does look good, but they're getting better at that all the time.

How's the reeding?
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 Posted 07/28/2011  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add calinka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, thank you all for your help, no the coin does not stick to a magnet, just the size and weight makes me wonder a bit.Thickness is fine.Price $35

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I think its within the tolerances and looks real to me, so if its fake it would be one that would probably fool me and means I need to update my counterfeit detecting skills
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 Posted 07/28/2011  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just $4.xx over melt paid, you did OK....but it does look cleaned.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Uechi_Ryu_Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ratio between 37.8 mm (this coin) / 38.1 mm (standard diameter) = 99.2%
I.e., this coin is less than 1% below standard. Might I ask, what is your margin of error in measurement?
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Looks cleaned but OK to me!
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Safe bet. It looks real.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Authentic, Cleaned and not UNC.
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