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I Remembered Today Why I Stopped Going To Coin Shows

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 Posted 05/16/2017  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add howell1018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Harry213. In response to the points you made above, what I find strange is that the Long Beach show takes place over a 3 day period (Thursday, Friday, and Saturday) where in the past (my first Long Beach show was in 1976) I seem to recall (and I could very well be wrong) it ran from Thursday to Sunday and I think the first day was dealer to dealer only (but once again..I could be wrong). Most working people work from Monday to Friday which means they can only attend on the weekend. I recall back in the day, people complaining that they went to the show on the last day (Sunday) and that there were lots of empty tables, which was of course discouraging to them. I also understand the dealers wanting to make planes, and whatever, but at least back then the working stiff had Saturday. Now the back end has been eliminated and Saturday looks like what Sunday used to look like. I never made the assumption that "this is THE reason for losing devotees," I said this MAY be ONE of the reasons they're losing devotees. I they have family or other commitments that limits their participation, perhaps they should advise the show promoters who could then make clear that these sellers would not be there on the final day (though I don't think promoter would be very excited about that as it would serve to cut back on attendance). I'm assuming (once again) that the reason for the loss of Sunday is because more and more dealers were leaving on Saturday and that day became extraneous, so they cut it out and added Thursday for the public. Perhaps this is a chicken or the egg scenario. The dealers leave on Saturday or early Sunday because of lower attendance, but maybe the reason for the lower attendance is the result of the dealers leaving early. As I said previously, i"m retired and I plan on going on Thursday, but I have that luxury being retired.
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 Posted 05/17/2017  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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see that the show is taking place over a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. The show website indicates that there will be "limited dealers" on Saturday. I assume this is because some dealers like to leave a day early. I understand this when the show occurs over the entire weekend and they leave early on Sunday, but if there's only one weekend day why would they leave early?

It used to be that most mid sized or larger shows were Fri, Sat, and Sun. But so many dealers were leaving Saturday night or early Sunday that the shows were a ghosttown by early Sunday. So many shows dropped Sunday, and in some cases added a Thursday set up. Now many dealers leave Friday night or early Saturday and the show is a ghost town by early Saturday. Many dealers are there mainly for dealer to dealer trade and after the first day they're done. In some cases they will do Friday at one show and Saturday at another. It isn't good for the shows, but there really isn't much you can do to try and keep the dealers from leaving. At one time the ANA tried fining dealers that left early. But the BIG dealers that were the major draw (and tend to have tables right inside the doors) told them you do that and we just won't take tables next year, we'll just work the floor. So they fined the small dealers and let the big boys slide. That didn't go over very well. Central States tries to handle the problem by having a drawing amount the dealers that stay on the last day withthe winner getting their table and or hotel room compted.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a couple of nice shows around here in central Ohio. If you want to set up in them, you WILL be there all day Saturday and at least till noon on Sunday. If not, you don't get to come back. The big boys did complain once and boycotted the next show. The people who ran them just sold the spots to other dealers and the big boys missed out on their sales.

They can say what they want for public consumption, but I am a dealer and I talk to the other dealers, and the ones that got left out ( and this was a few years ago) complained profusely when they found out that they ban was for real. Since then, most people pretty much obey the rules. If you want to buy on Sunday, you better be there early and move real fast. However, you will find some real good deals.
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 Posted 05/21/2017  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardo Hinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard plenty of coin buying and selling horror stories. I want to branch out but its hard to determine who's legitimate and who's trying to rip you off.

I also worry I've been ripped off in the past and sold counterfeits I think are legit. For the most part I think these are just natural risks of the trade.
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