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 AU58 Must be a twist to this story. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Knowing ICCS EF 45 at best
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could be the picture but it looks badly smushed at 8 oclock on the reverse, +carbon spot and some corrosion.
i am probably way off but guessing they gave it a vf40 tops
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could be the picture but it looks badly smushed at 8 oclock on the reverse Yeah, it's just the picture. There is a carbon spot there, so it looks strange (In the picture). |
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So everyone is familiar with ICCS ..Ok it goes like this....It all depends on who submitted the coin plain and simple..  .. Now theres a topic .....lol |
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hmmmmmmm no just stay out of it no need to end up on vacation again!  ! |
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ICCS had the unfair advantage of seeing the coin in hand...
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I would like to know what was meant by "it depends on who submits the coin" I submitted coins for the first time a couple months ago and actually was pretty satisfied with the grading. Some coins that I thought were UNC were given AU55 - not bad. Another coin which I thought would be AU came back MS63. The biggest different in the coins was luster. The 2 that were given AU55 were rainbow toned and no sings of luster. The other coin given MS63 has some nice red brown luster. I think ICCS pays to much attention to Luster and not enough to Strike! Just my opinion, also based on some ICCS graded coins.
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So ICCS says it's MS. Let's pretend we agree with that much. Does this mean they felt it had MS-62/63 details and the tiny corrosion/pvc/carbon damage lowered the grade to 60? Or maybe it should be MS-60 with comment(s)?
What if this were a more extreme example, like a coin graded MS-65 with some horrendous flaw. Assuming it's even still gradable, does it make more sense for it to be MS-65 with comment "Horrible Damage" or AU-50 even though it's clearly otherwise uncirculated? Just thinking out loud. Maybe there's no single right answer.
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as everybody knows, buy the coin not the grade, its a great hobby don't base coin collecting on TPGAs my self I'd rather buy a collection from a bunch of old people than one coin that is graded haha |
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I have seen many cases when a coin is mint state, but kind of fugly, that ICCS gravitates towards an MS-60 grade. That is why I guessed that. I think PCGS would have graded this one "Genuine - Environmental Damage".
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I have seen many cases when a coin is mint state, but kind of fugly, that ICCS gravitates towards an MS-60 grade. Aah. That is kind of what I was imagining - that MS-60 becomes a catch-all (to a certain point) of mint state coins with problems. Thanks bosox. Edited by LaureateBust
10/11/2012 2:38 pm
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