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Odd Toning On MS-64 1935 Dollar

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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
i didn't get this coin for 40$...

i got a 1953 MS-64 for 40$...
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
and for a matter of fact I paid 105$ for this coin and it's worth every dollar, it has toning you can't see in these pictures. so worth it!
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
SF or NSF ? Nice buy either way!!
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
shoulder strap
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
Nice coin!! They are usually baggy and seldom get even 63. You got a deal on the 53~
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian_Paper to your friends list
Nice buys, both of them.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I stand to be educated.

I would like to find out more about those marks across the crown that were so obviously pictured.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
my misstake regarding the price, most important thing is that you like the coin
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 Posted 10/21/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
no worries! :)
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 Posted 10/22/2012  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Just wondering if the slab is a fake? There are fake PCGS slabs aren't there?
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 Posted 10/22/2012  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
Oh there totally is but seeing hundreds of real ones and even more fake ones I don't think it's a problem for me.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
I know nothing about Canadian coinage, but those horizontal (for the most part) lines could be a lamination, a defect in the planchet before it was struck.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Jake,

Buy the coin not the holder.

You're asking the question so here's my take...

The coin is overgraded by one maybe two grades.

PCGS in the early years (and this is an earlier slab) gave an extra point or two for the toning.

This is why Brian at ICCS is so brutally strict when he grades a toned PCGS coin because he knows this fact.

I gave ICCS a PCGS graded ms65 1934 dime to grade once and he graded it an au58.

Just one thing to watch out for - old PCGS graded Canadian toned coins (almost always overgraded).
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 Posted 10/22/2012  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list
The dark lines appear to just be toning. The thin white lines in front of the base of George's crown and over his eye/temple appear to be raised on the coin. If they are indeed raised, that means the die used to strike the coin had those marks/scratches on it, so it wouldn't deduct from the grade of the coin.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Those marks are toning... no different than a dark streak you would see on a 1-cent coin... technically, they do not affect the grade, unless the grade factors in eye-appeal (such as PCGS does).
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