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I am cautious about stating coins are fake. I had been told that this coin was restruck with the correct edges(Note: a Restrike isn't a fake but a restrike isn't origional!) I had heard one way to identify the restrike was to look at the Letter R under the eagle! if it looks like a "K" then it is more likely to be a restrike.
I am not fully confident on this info and I am posting it only to give you more info to check out.
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Nice coin. I can't see anything wrong.
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Sorry, but this is a modern re-strike rather than an original coin. As austrowiki mentioned, the incompletely struck R is a definitive diagnostic of the copies. You can find plenty of them on ebay, often coming from eastern Europe. |
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I check out my coin and find it is 100% the same. Do anyone know it was a contemporary counterfeit that had been circulating or it is a modern forgery for cheating coin collectors? The two phenomena are quite different?
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Thanks all! I sent this coin back. Glad I did!
As always, great help around here!
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Do anyone know it was a contemporary counterfeit that had been circulating or it is a modern forgery for cheating coin collectors? The Italians re-struck the coin in the 1950s-1960s using the original but degraded dies. the re-strikes were made targeting coin collectors Edited by austrokiwi
01/04/2014 02:24 am
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Sorry, but this is a modern re-strike rather than an original coin But should we have a real one "mint mark R" showed before we conclude it is a counterfeit? I have searched in ebay and MA shops but each same coin has a "incomplet" R as the mint mark. I still not sure the coin showed here is a restrike! |
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I tend to agree but out of self interest , no one likes to think they have been duped. I have a similar coin but the signature is well struck. I am not prepared to outright claim mine is original nor to say it is one of the re-strikes. All I can say is I am doubtful about it. I have seen examples with the complete "R" and signature, they usually sell for very high prices( that said mine wasn't cheap and was purchased in Addis Abbaba). I am more suspicious about the one pictured in this thread. The "R" is considerably more degraded than mine and likewise the signature. all that said all I can confidently say is that I am doubtful  Edit: looking at the last photo(BTW those photos are most helpful) the apparent wear on the coin seems to me to be more indicative of die wear. Edited by austrokiwi
01/05/2014 06:19 am
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Wong - the "complete" R can be confused with the incomplete one, so your coin may be just fine. The complete are looks more like an H with a thin line connecting the top bars to form an R, it does not look like a standard letter R. But on these re-strikes, both the top thin like and virtually the entire top half of the letter is missing.
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Your coin looks pretty good, somewhat a late die state, but the letters are not as flared as you find on the re-strikes. The more recent issues also have a lopsided bottom loop of the 8 in the date, as on the OP's coin, but your coin has a normal rounded one.
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