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1855 Type 2 Gold Dollar. Guess The PCGS Grade.crusty & Toned

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Ok, this coin really stands out in a crowd of type 2 gold dollars that look about the same...and the intense toning can either provoke love or hate for the look. So 2 questions.
What grade did PCGS give it?
Do you LOVE it or HATE it?


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 Posted 02/27/2014  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Moderators, feel free to move this in the grading section, it probably fits there a little better.
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 Posted 02/27/2014  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely love it. I think PCGS gave it a MS62
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I love this series, many have cool clashes, as this one does. Probably my favorite US coin design. I would say AU58, although these are notorious for weak strikes. If a weak strike, MS63. I like the toning, makes it a bit different. Not many toned gold coins.
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I have no real clue as to grading gold coins, but I will take a run at it saying AU55. And I rather like it.
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I agree with AU and say AU58
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 Posted 02/27/2014  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How does a gold coin tone? Silver oxidizes, but I thought gold was fairly inert. Does the copper in the coin have something to do with it?
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02/27/2014 11:22 pm
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I'm in the AU camp as well.


I haven't found any neat die clashes like this coin or Moe's 1813 O-110 yet but I'll stumble across one when I'm least expecting it.

-MV
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One of the ways that an 'old gold' tone can come about is the result of a coin resting at the bottom of a drawer that has lot of chemically aggressive resin in the wood, and that gets at the 10% of alloying copper.

Old gold tone? Some like it, and some don't; I do.
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I'll move it for you John :-)

Crusty? I knew instantly this was your thread!
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It certainly isn't my domain, not that I really have one. I would have said an excellent XF.
But what the heck happened to the 8 and the L in Dollar? It looks like someone stole the 8 to make another coin. If we grind off every 8 we come across we'll have an extra dollar in no time.
I don't love it but I certainly don't hate it. I wouldn't want one or I might get the bug.
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Need an accurate weight.
How much does it weigh?
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sel_69, the coin is in a PCGS slab, so no way I can get an accurate weight, but there are no concerns of authenticity either. This is a very heavily counterfeited type though, but the counterfeits that come in for grading dont have die clash marks, or so I was told by an NGC grader.
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Nice AU 53 coin.

The toning is caused by chemical reaction with the 10% copper in the coin.
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Ah, so the copper does cause the toning, thanks, guys!
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AU-53 for me, please.

I prefer the bright gold color versus toned. But I also like to think about the coin's story that the tone alludes to.
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