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Is This 1964 Jeff 5c Proof A DDR ?

 
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 Posted 06/29/2022  9:08 pm Show Profile   Check GaryVanWa's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GaryVanWa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Howdy all,

I scanned a few forums first and saw a thread from back in 2009 about a 5c proof DDR but thought I'd start a new post. I was going through my box of proofs and having fun trying out my new Tomlov camera. I zoomed in on this ''64 Jeff proof and thought I'd run it past you. DDR or lighting/shadows? I tried to take shots from several angles to get a better idea of which it is.











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 Posted 06/29/2022  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking this is lighting/glare. Not seeing notching where I'd expect to and what may look like separation is in places it shouldn't be.
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 Posted 06/29/2022  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Check GaryVanWa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GaryVanWa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got it. Thanks for having a look!
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 Posted 06/29/2022  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Check GaryVanWa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GaryVanWa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again. I think I'll look into getting a diffuser that I saw in a different thread. To cut down the glare from the LED's that came with the new camera.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  12:36 am  Show Profile   Check GaryVanWa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GaryVanWa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tanman, Just curious, could you recommend photo examples of the how the notching and separation SHOULD look?

I looked at a few items from your homepage listed in your profile. Anything specific there that would be useful for me to study?
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 Posted 06/30/2022  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Proof coins are struck twice so at that level of magnification you may be seeing artifacts of that as well. If it's on the die there will be more out there with the same characteristics.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I can't find an exact match on the sites, I feel this is a DDR. Note the 'ELLO' devices on this coin. That tells me this is a DDR.

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 Posted 06/30/2022  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We ask always show us the entire full coin, both sides. Thanks.
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 Posted 07/01/2022  11:04 am  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A large majority of the 60's 5c doubled dies are Class II doubled dies, so the doubling would typically be towards or away from the rim. Because of this you would likely only see separation on the parts of the lettering that are parallel to the rim. This would be the horizontal lines of the letters. (Except for MONTICELLO where you'd see separation on the vertical lines of the first and last few letters)

See this 1962 DDR I have: http://www.crdievarieties.com/doku....9625csddr002

Follow the direction of the supposed doubling on the coin. Your photos of EPU appear to be in the right direction but then move to UNITED where it looks to be going east, not towards or away from the rim.

I think the best proof that this is just lighting is the two pictures of FIVE you posted. Despite you having the one photo completely upside down, the doubling is always on the right side of the image. That's not the direction of any doubling, that's the direction of your light.
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