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Bumping this thread...
Anyone get anything in the big Heritage auction yesterday? Many Eric Newman pieces and the McClure collection. I struck out on all fronts.
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Here's my latest acquisition... MI-180-A-1a Question... On a recent Heritage auction, they listed this token as an R5, but in the US Civil War Store Cards, 3rd Ed, they show it as an R8. Which is correct?   Edited by Dave H
06/25/2016 2:31 pm
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I got these four, but I have absolutely no idea what they are.   |
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Truman1404 ... You have four, relatively common Civil War tokens in mid-grade condition. I'd guesstimate the aggregate value at around $70-$80, with wholesale being around $60. Three of them are classified as patriotics, and the Cohoes token is a storecard.
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Awesome, thanks for the info.
I was searching the Internet for an hour yesterday and I couldn't figure it out.
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My latest acquisition arrived today and I am very happy! It was identified in the E-Bay auction as an OH-975-C-3a, which would make it an R5 according to the US Civil War Store Cards 3rd Ed. If it was the 3a, it would have the 1178 eagle reverse. However, I believe it has the 1179 reverse. If so, the book calls that an R-10. Please check out the pics and let me know what you think......   |
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it does appear to be OH-975-C-3a / Rev 1178. My book does not list that 1179 was mated with OH-975-C-3a. But it does show OH-975-C-4a mated with 1181 that had the date added.
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Fuzzy, my old CWT book doesn't show it mated w/ the 1179 either, but the newest FULD 3rd Ed Store Card book does, and lists it as R-10. Does your book reference the OH-975-C-5a variety?
When you compare the 1178 to the 1179, there are a few things about this reverse that still makes me think it's the 1179.
#1 - the blob on the end of the middle arrow being much bigger and nearer to the top right side of the 3 in the date.
#2 - the beak is much closer to the wing on the 1179
#3 - the denticles are bigger on the 1179
#4 - the bottom of the branch where it ends over the 1 in the date on the 1179 is bigger and wider
#5 - the overall size of the date is bigger and more pronounced on the 1179
Anyways, I'm going to keep hoping. I'll send it in to NGC and see what they say...
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08/05/2016 06:52 am
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When I only looked at the pictures, I was also thinking 1179. I only changed opinion after my book didn't show mated with 1179. My book was printed in 2013, not sure when the information was last updated though.
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Fuzzy, I totally understand. When I first saw it, at first glimpse, also thought it was the OH-975-C-3a. When I checked the book for verification, it just didn't seem right. I checked the other reverses in the FULD book, and thought that it was the 1179 reverse, but wanted someone else to verify it for me. We'll see if anyone else chimes in... maybe ExoGuy, CheetahCats, or brg5658 can shed some further light on the subject...
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08/05/2016 12:59 pm
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Hi Dave .... Your CWT does appear to have the 1179 reverse, shown in both the 1975 and 2013 storecard books. The Brumter pieces are listed with the similar 1178 reverse but not the 1179 reverse. In doing some searching to find a comparison piece, I found one in the Heritage archives. Although the NGC label tags it as OH 975 C-3a it clearly has a 1079 reverse like yours, Dave, and NOT the 1078 reverse as listed in the Fuld reference books. See below pics ...     My guess is that the book listings are in error. Does this variety even exist with a 1078 reverse? Although Fuld lists the 3a as an R5, I'm hard-pressed to locate a few specimens for further comparison, searching online. Perhaps, the rarity of this variety is greater ... R7 ? The above Heritage piece sold for $111.00 in 2013. Over the years, many CWT corrections and updates have been made with regard to the tremendous work accomplished by the Fulds. I imagine that many more will occur in the years ahead; this, being one. I'm going to share this thread with a friend of mine who is one of the officials in the CWTS and was a contributor to the reference works. I'll update this thread with his comments. Dave ... Your specimen, although lacking the red of the slabbed piece, appears sharper and lacks the scratches. Nice pick-up! |
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ExoGuy, thanks for the new info. I also did some on-line searching and wasn't able to find any more than the one I have, and the one listed on Heritage. Thanks for forwarding the link to your CWTS friend, and am eagerly waiting to see what he has to say about it.
Thanks, again!
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I received this coin in a lot of 500 Lincoln wheat cents. Does it look genuine to y'all? I realize it's not worth a bunch even if it is, I'm mainly curious, and wanting to learn more about Civil War Tokens. Thanks!   |
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Nothing shouts fake, but I am having trouble matching to a Fuld die pair  |
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