1932 D - Would Like Opinions

Thanks D0ubl3Eagle! I wondered about the cleaning as well, is there a way to tell for sure? If it is cleaned how does that affect the grade\value...do you knock points off the grade? Is it just worthless at that point?

Vf 35, far from worthless

VF too many small hairlines you should be able to see while slightly tilting and and slowly moving side to side under an intense light source.

I had the date m/m in VG heavily cleaned it brought over $50.00 on ebay last year. I'd say your is worth $150-200 in the shape it's in, hardly worthless!

The cleaning will knock the grade down - sometimes usually seen on a slabbed coin as details or "net" graded. As to how much a cleaning lowers the value, that is dependent on each coin and how bad the coin is affected by it, a light dip to remove toning or unsightly tarnish sometimes won't matter, a heavy dip/rinse is the least damaging to value, a wipe or a thumbing (term used in silver dollars where one wipes the flat cheek of the Liberty to hide small ticks and scuffs) is the next best, followed by wiping the coin with a soft cloth, then harsher cleanings generally use brushes, scrubbing or even polishing. Worst are coins that have been whizzed (they show an unnatural shiny surface, with hairlines too small to see without a magnifier, usually), many times a cleaning is hidden with AT (artificial toning) or sped up toning using lots of different things, mostly chemicals and heat).

This is why I advocate buying the book before the coin, learn as much as you can, go to coin shows and shops to see lots of coin examples, also look for a mentor in the business, that is the best. CCF is a great resource, but it takes years of experience.

My high school pal and fellow coin nut started one of the big TPG's (still going now) he could look at a pile of $20 Saints and pick the counterfeits out naked eye every time. Some people just have a knack for cleaned and counterfeit coins, but for most it takes years of study and seeing lots and lots of coins.

If you get into the hobby enough I suggest you take a Summer Seminar class on grading, that is the one thing that really taught me the most knowledge, and those classes still remain some of the best/most fun weeks in my life.

Thanks for all the great feedback guys, and thanks for being so quick to give it out. Its what I appreciate about the forum here. I haven't posted in a while, been busy with family stuff. Any way I appreciate the help here. I have a 1932 as well that I want to take pics of and get out here for our comments...so I'll do that when I get the time.

Its odd, I'm not sure if its the lighting, my camera, or the way I took the pic, but this 1932 D doesn't have any green stuff on it any where nor does it have a green tone to it, so I might try to take new pics and see If I cant get a pic closer to the real color of the coin. It does have a lot of hair lines on it, but the luster and look of the coin is really appealing IMO.

Westcoin, I'm interested in one of those summer courses, When I'm done posting here I will probably go out and look around, but do you have any direct information on a schedule or who puts them on?

One other thing I am going to do is get hooked up with the local club here where I live in Muncie, IN. I bought this 1932 D at the Muncie Coin and Stamp show this last weekend, it was my first really big show, pretty cool I'll say, anyhoo, I was able to talk to a couple of club members and get an idea of what the club and meetings were like. It sounds like something that would be worth my time.

Tanks to all for helping out here. I'll see what I can do to get some better pics of this coin.

Biokemist6 thanks much

VF-35