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 Posted 04/26/2012  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They do start out as legit Peace dollars, do they not?
Or does he use molten silver to make fantasy pieces?

It seems to me if he restamps a piece dollar it's doctoring if he makes something from scratch it's
a fantasy piece (or whatever you want to call it).

I really don't know how he gets away with what he does either way.
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 Posted 04/26/2012  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So a hobo nickel is not a coin?


Nope. Once carved, it is exonumia. Just try spending a hobo nickel as five cents and see how far that gets you, any cashier with a lick of common sense would reject it.


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He changes the metal, they're still coins, and they are worth more.

Worth more to who? Answer- someone buying it for artistic merit and not as a coin. You certainly aren't going to find one listed in any numismatic price guide and it cannot be a coin if it is not monetized by the US Government.

Using your misinterpretation of the definition, elongated cents would also be considered as "doctored". After all, you are altering the metal by flattening and embossing an image on it and the resultant EC is worth more than 1 cent.


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They do start out as legit Peace dollars, do they not?

Yes, it is overstruck on a genuine random date Peace dollar and traces of the original design remain after overstriking.

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 Posted 04/26/2012  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, do not the PNG guidelines apply to the conduct of PNG members?

There is nothing in the guidelines that states a PNG member is forbidden from purchasing a fantasy piece and selling it as a fantasy piece.

If they buff the fantasy piece to make it "look better" that's a violation, as their conduct is against the guidelines.

In fact, item 7 of the current code of ethics states (emphasis mine):


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7. To refrain from knowingly dealing in counterfeit, altered or repaired numismatic items without fully disclosing their status to my customer.


I hate to say it, scubu, but I think you've got the wrong angle on this one.
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