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1944 NFLD Cent - Counterfeit

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 Posted 10/17/2012  07:34 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pick up any circulated 1944 NFLD 1-cent, and draw your own conclusions...
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 Posted 10/17/2012  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am unsure how to answer your question OD. :-) How about this...... I graduated (almost) from the school of Frustrated with Uneducated Coin collecting academy located in Kansas.
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oh, I know.. but please re-read my previous post.
a good number of collectors know when they see it. BUT I bet 95% of collectors would not believe at first that a coin with a low value like this, or others, would be worth to forge and sell.
the whole key is making them believe and then recognize these coins, or at least have some serious doubts about buying these.
SPP, I have a few of them and as you see in my previous post, it is for the education of those who "are still in the dark".
thank you
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I am fully in the dark as to what to look for in a forgery. I would love to learn more. Nickelsguy, is there things in general that one should look for in fakes, or does each forgery have different types of markers?
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 Posted 10/17/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fake looks like the dies were made by casting them (everything in the right place, with the right shapes, but weak details in places). The exception is the 9 in the date, as SPP pointed out. I am guessing it didn't come out well in the casting and they had to fix it in the die by hand.

My 1944 was certified by PCGS in about 2008. Before that, it was in an old embossed ICCS holder.
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middros, all I can suggest is educating yourself. Use the publications available and KNOW the coins in the series you decide to pursue. I identify the markers on the 189 different Chinese (Canadian) fakes as well as the markers for other known counterfeits from Lebanon etc. The chinese fakes are easy to identify to me no matter which planchet is used. But I studied very hard to be able to say that. If in doubt, don't buy.
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So.. We have a fake Newfoundland 1944 one cent coin, just wondering why the Chinese would go through the trouble to counterfeit such a low priced coin.
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They make many things that seem to make no sense. I asked one manufacturer and I was told that he makes "what his customers want". I get emails from 2 different manufacturers monthly. They update me on new stuff they are making etc.
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Hey nickelsguy!! Never Explain All Things?
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Nickelsguy,
would you please be so kind and have a look at the 1875 quarter I posted...
Your opinion would be much appreciated.
thanks
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