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Moderator
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Quote: I exchanged photo's. Now shows the markers that work... I moved this thread back the the original location. 
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Look also at the 9 in the date. The loop is all wrong, much too small; the date is way too bold. Here is a superb example from the PCGS Registry online (this coin belongs to bosox). 
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Just a quick glance and I was fooled.Saw weakness in the right side of the pitcher plant,but not being familiar with this series I thought maybe weak strike. I see a weakness in the rear of the crown as well now.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 10/16/2012 3:11 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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There are some glaring mistakes like the 9, but I could see a collector getting fooled if they're unfamiliar with this coin. Also--check out the skewed "E" in NEWFOUNDLAND. It's very irritating to see these are getting faked!  I'm afraid it will spoil the hobby. 
Edited by DVCollector 10/16/2012 6:22 pm
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Canada
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OK SPP, (btw, I was actually in Wernher Von Braun's home , also Albert Einstein... come from very close to both... mmm I guess that is why I AM so smart...lololololo) when was this the Bosox coin certified. some of his coins have a very senior cert.... WHO says it is the real McCoy and Nickels Guy, who says that you are correct? ( not at all doubting your reputation) I am just asking these question for educational purposes, for others...., NOT for arguments!! It is easy to say FAKE, another matter to support your claim with details. Otherwise nobody will be able to educate themselves. having received it from HKG does not necessarily mean it is a fake.
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Pick up any circulated 1944 NFLD 1-cent, and draw your own conclusions...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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I am unsure how to answer your question OD. :-) How about this...... I graduated (almost) from the school of Frustrated with Uneducated Coin collecting academy located in Kansas.
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New Member
Canada
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oh, I know.. but please re-read my previous post. a good number of collectors know when they see it. BUT I bet 95% of collectors would not believe at first that a coin with a low value like this, or others, would be worth to forge and sell. the whole key is making them believe and then recognize these coins, or at least have some serious doubts about buying these. SPP, I have a few of them and as you see in my previous post, it is for the education of those who "are still in the dark". thank you
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I am fully in the dark as to what to look for in a forgery. I would love to learn more. Nickelsguy, is there things in general that one should look for in fakes, or does each forgery have different types of markers?
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Pillar of the Community
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The fake looks like the dies were made by casting them (everything in the right place, with the right shapes, but weak details in places). The exception is the 9 in the date, as SPP pointed out. I am guessing it didn't come out well in the casting and they had to fix it in the die by hand.
My 1944 was certified by PCGS in about 2008. Before that, it was in an old embossed ICCS holder.
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Pillar of the Community
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middros, all I can suggest is educating yourself. Use the publications available and KNOW the coins in the series you decide to pursue. I identify the markers on the 189 different Chinese (Canadian) fakes as well as the markers for other known counterfeits from Lebanon etc. The chinese fakes are easy to identify to me no matter which planchet is used. But I studied very hard to be able to say that. If in doubt, don't buy.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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So.. We have a fake Newfoundland 1944 one cent coin, just wondering why the Chinese would go through the trouble to counterfeit such a low priced coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
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They make many things that seem to make no sense. I asked one manufacturer and I was told that he makes "what his customers want". I get emails from 2 different manufacturers monthly. They update me on new stuff they are making etc.
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Hey nickelsguy!! Never Explain All Things?
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Nickelsguy, would you please be so kind and have a look at the 1875 quarter I posted... Your opinion would be much appreciated. thanks
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