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Quote: Colonialtokens: Your photos are an excellent representation of some of the 41 (thus far) different D/C's. And some varieties share the same reverse dies, thus having the same D/C. And as such, later reverse dies may shew later-state D/C progressions. To date, I had only identified 33* of the varieties listed by Dr. Courteau. But then, of the 9 varieties I have not been able to identify to date among the 319 described by Courteau (All for the Half Penny), 4 are among the 1850 issue (Courteau #014, #042, #059 and #072), while I have identified a little over 900 examples for the Half Penny 1850 issue (Since I started keeping track). So I guess some of them may be among those four. *Correction
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Edited by ainsivalavie 04/12/2023 5:53 pm
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Quote:Quote: Colonialtokens: Your photos are an excellent representation of some of the 41 (thus far) different D/C's. And some varieties share the same reverse dies, thus having the same D/C. And as such, later reverse dies may shew later-state D/C progressions. To date, I had only identified 33* of the varieties listed by Dr. Courteau. But then, of the 9 varieties I have not been able to identify to date among the 319 described by Courteau (All for the Half Penny), 4 are among the 1850 issue (Courteau #014, #042, #059 and #072), while I have identified a little over 900 examples for the Half Penny 1850 issue (Since I started keeping track). So I guess some of them may be among those four. *Correction In analyzing your list of die cracks, I realize that you were talking about all the pairs of dies. Sorry for the confusion. However, I also include the varieties 18, 24 and 49 in this list. Because even if the die crack passes between the letters «L» and «F», it comes to connect directly to the letter «hal F».
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Edited by ainsivalavie 04/12/2023 6:25 pm
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A few years ago, I contacted Louis Chevrier of CCCS to ask him if he was planning to publish a population report for Canadian tokens that had been certified by his company. He told me that it was not planned, since the way he had done the entries in his database for the colonial tokens prevented a quick and reliable report. So I set out to compile the information myself through various means. As a result, I recently passed the 1400 mark of certifications listed. Obviously, this data is only a part of the total number of tokens certified by CCCS. How many? 20%?, 40%?, 60%? To be honest, I have no idea. But for lack of an alternative, I think it's still relevant information. For those who are interested, you can download it for free in PDF format at the following address: http://numinfo.alwaysdata.net/pdf/C...valavie).pdf
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@ainsivalavie:
Did you mention that you have produced a book on the Bank of Upper Canada tokens? Is it available for purchase?
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Quote: @ainsivalavie: Did you mention that you have produced a book on the Bank of Upper Canada tokens? Is it available for purchase? @Makitag:I still have one copy available at home from my last reprint. If you are interested, just contact me privately.
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@ainsivalavie
I would love a copy.
I am too new of a member on this site to email directly (even though I have been collecting for decades!!). Are you able to direct message me?
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Quote: @Makitag: I would love a copy. I am too new of a member on this site to email directly (even though I have been collecting for decades!!). Are you able to direct message me? Unfortunately, you have disabled the option for me to send you an email from the forum (maybe you can enable it?). And as for me, I try not to publish my personal email address on the forums, so as not to be spammed. Otherwise, you can also contact me via ebay: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/332773443168
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@ainsivalavieMessaged you via ebay. Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ains
not sure if this helps, but here's a list of what I got back from CCCS about 6 months ago:
PC6A2 1850 1P dot MS60 PC6A1 1850 1P MS64 PC5B1 1852 1P MS60 PC6B4 1852 1P EF40 PC5C1 1854 ½P MS60 PC6c1 1854 1P cross 4 EF40 PC5D 1857 ½P MS62 PC2A1 1837/1842 EF40 Mule City Bank ½P AU55 Montreal ½P MS60 Quebec ½P AU50 Peuple ½P MS60 Quebec 1P AU55 LC45 Duseaman VF30 LC4A1 Rebellion VF20 clipped LC4A2 Rebellion VF20 LC5A1 Sou EF40 LC5A5 Sou EF40 LC54A 1813 eagle EF45 LC54A1 1813 eagle EF45 LC20A1 J.Roy F12 clipped LC20A2 J.Roy F15 clipped BR572 Playing Cards AU50 NS24A1 1820 Trade/Nav EF40 NS3D1 1832/1382 EF40 NS3D1 1832/1382 EF40 flawed plan NS10B1 1814 Hosterman EF40 NS24A1 1820 Trade/Nav EF40
I have several dragon slayer brockages that I did not list, but will if you are including major errors in your reports.
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@Wade: I'll need at least the first and last serial numbers of your consecutive certifications.
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Pillar of the Community
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Gimme a couple of days & I will post
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Quote:Ains, still working on digging out the certified tokens to provide serial #s ...I just ran across this one on ebay, ebay item number: 266192616846, it's not mine, but what a great example! @Wade:Yes, I had seen this token several days ago. Thus, this is one of the most advanced stage of die wear I've seen to date for the variety Courteau #120. But otherwise, there are still much more extreme cases for this series of tokens. For CCCS serial numbers, to keep things simple, only one serial number is needed. From this I can then search in the CCCS database to determine the previous and subsequent #s linked to the colonial tokens. And if you prefer to keep this information confidential, you can always contact me privately. Thank you.
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Edited by ainsivalavie 07/31/2023 4:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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just picked this one up, paid more than I wanted but on the other hand I haven't come across this variety in MS in quite some time. should play alongside my ms64 1/2P nicely. 1854 Crosslet 4 NGC MS62 (#2896411-013)  
Edited by Wade 08/01/2023 09:41 am
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Very very nice. Gene's eating his heart out.
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