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Philip 1 Silver Antoninianus 244 A.d. -- Fourree?

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Ancient Roman Silver Antoninianus PHILIP I. 244-249 AD, SAECVLARES AVGG. Cippus 22 mm, 2.4 gm

I didn't think it was a fourree but now I am having my doubts.

May I have your opinions please?



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I don't think it's a fouree, it looks more like environmental damage to me.
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Looks like the coin has been in a quite acidic environment and some copper might have leeched out/concentrated.
Don't forget that the silver content at that time was variable, especially with the corruption in the mints.
Have a look at the rim where the indentations are. Doubt it is a Fourree aka plated coin.
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Thanks for the comments. I do appreciate them.

I have soaked it in de mineralized water and now I will apply some 'Renaissance' wax, (my first time using it.)
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Very nice coin you've got here. A fat cippus Saeculares. Harder to come across than the thin cippus variety. At this level of damage, with silver still showing in the pits, its certainly not a fourree.
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Thanks, Ben. I appreciate the comments.
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Kinda' looks like mine but I have that skinny cippus.

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Nate - Yes, when I was attributing it, I noticed that the 'fat' cippus was in the minority (in fact I think I only found one).

It is a pity it is not in better condition.

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Does not look like a fouree imo..
I have a Gordian III Laetitia Antoninus coin that slightly chipped off due to environmental damage
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