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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades. Looking For 440s

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John class 6b2 short cross penny of London.
Issue Date: c.1213 - c.1215
References: Spink 1354; North 975/2


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Thanks Gooner.
Come on people don't be shy!
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Al-Sultan in the center, Mohamed and additional inscriptions (al-Sultan al-azam... the rest unread) in the margins / Mohamed Bin Takesh in a monogram in the center, additional inscriptions (presumably mint and date) in the margins. 31mm, 7.45 grams. Mint of Balkh. MWOI 910.

This rare type is poorly studied - the inscriptions were never read completely, and because this type is always very weakly struck, they are hard to read. Still, a very interesting and rare huge silver coin of this infamous ruler!
Mohamed Khwarezmshah was the most famous and powerful of the rulers of Khwarezm, though he is most known for his downfall and the story of the great expansion of the Empire of Genghis Khan. In 1218, Genghis Khan sent some emissaries to the Shah, but when he executed the Mongol diplomats in defiance of the emerging great power, Genghis retaliated with a force of 200,000 men. In February 1220 the Mongolian army crossed the Syr Darya and launched the Mongol invasion of Central Asia. The Mongols stormed Bukhara, Samarkand, and the Khwarezmid capital Urgench. The Shah fled and died some weeks later on an island in the Caspian Sea.



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Just in time A.N.
Off to 1210-1201!
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I think this is a penny issued by Hernaud of Canterbury during the early part of King John's reign - a detector find!

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Wow! That is an impressive find and a great way to start us off. Congrats
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That's a lovely coin Numisrob,I might be wrong here,but it looks like a Henry III penny,Canterbury mint,moneyer HENRI .
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Quote:
That's a lovely coin Numisrob,I might be wrong here,but it looks like a Henry III penny,Canterbury mint,moneyer HENRI.


In which case I've posted this in the wrong place - oops! Thanks - I must admit it looks more like 'Henri' to me - woe betide the so-called expert who first identified it for me!
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John class 4c short cross penny of London.
Issue Date: c.1204
HENRIC ON L[VN]
References: Spink 1349; North 968/3
Comments: J P Mass (SCBI 56) comments that the spelling of the moneyer's name, HENRIC (as opposed to HENRI), is unusual in class 4c.

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1202-1256
Austria
1 pfennig
Rev : Buste of duke Bernhard von Spanheim,
lily in every hand
Obv : winged lion left
legend +SAIIC VIC
mint St-Veit
Luschin 194
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This is what I think to know:
India
1 jital
1 jital
bull and horseman
ND (+- this is about 1200)
Anonymous "Post-Shahi" BI Jital, Tye 33.
Ruler : "Sri Samanta Deva" in Nagari above bull.
Medieval India - Hindu dynasties » Northern India
Date range 900 - 1200 AD. Most likely later in the period. With respect to these anonymous issues (32, 33 and 34) Robert Tye says: "it is unlikely we will ever know exactly who struck what."
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And another, same period
Afghanistan
1 jital
Stier en ruiter
ND (+- 1200)
Ghurid dynasty
Ruler : Mu`izz al-Din Muhammad b. Sam
Born as: Shihab al-Din (AH543-602/1149-1206),
Ghorid, D10,
Mu'izz al-din Muhammad b. Sam, BI Jital, Dehli.
Type 185.
"sri mahamada sama" in Nagari above bull.
"sri hamirah" in Nagari behind horseman's head.
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Very good! It's nice to see some non European coins for a change. Keep it up!
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We are in the 1100's. 1200-1191!
This century would see the last gasp of the Roman Empire. As Constantinople would be sacked in the 1200s and the Empire split by the "latins".


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Best map I could find of Asia during this time period. If any of this is wrong just say so.

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Before we move on; I would like to make a few minor rule changes.
They are....
Please let someone else post before posting a second coin a day
Everyone can now post at most two coins before passing the baton to the next user. I think this will increase the number of coins posted here.
Also the decades will change around 10-11:00 forum time. ( because who will be up at midnight ?)

Show us what you got boys and girls!
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