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 Posted 09/08/2017  04:20 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If everyone is in agreement, I'll declare january1may the winner of this round and so the privilege of posting the next challenge coin.

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Worst host ever!

Yes, I agree January wins this round
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@ spruett001

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If everyone is in agreement, I'll declare january1may the winner of this round and so the privilege of posting the next challenge coin.


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At least give each participant of this round their scores before officially proceeding to the next round.
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 Posted 09/08/2017  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Do not be too hard on yourself. We have definitely had worst. Trust me.
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 Posted 09/09/2017  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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At least give each participant of this round their scores before officially proceeding to the next round.



Now I'm wondering what to choose as the next challenge...

The problem is, if I post a common modern, someone will post the exact same thing on day 1 and it will just be boring.
And if I post something rare or ancient, there'd be no end of complaints that nobody has anything remotely similar.

The obvious solution is to post a scarce variety; the problem there is that I don't actually collect by variety, and could hardly care less about what particular variety my coins are (OK, if I had a pre-1921 Morgan dollar, I would've probably tried to look up the VAM, but I don't have one of those so far).

I thought of posting a coin from a minor German state and allowing any other German state to count as 1 point for "approximate country".
But then I looked at my previously uploaded images and found a coin that's almost perfect for this challenge
I'd need to take another photo, though - the existing one is a bit blurry (it's from the period when I already took my photos with my smartphone but hadn't yet found its flash function).

...For the record, no, it's not the 25 rubles 2018. I thought of posting that one, but I didn't want two Russian coins in a row
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Yeah c'mon @j1m. With a build up like that, you gotta give us the next challenge soon!
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Yeah c'mon @j1m. With a build up like that, you gotta give us the next challenge soon!
New pics already made, only waiting for the point counts now
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Ok fair enough.
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 Posted 09/09/2017  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malgal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't understand the game but sure enjoyed the coin show. Thanks
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 Posted 09/10/2017  12:12 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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only waiting for the point counts now


I'm not completely sure what point system is to be used but I'll give it a shot using january1may's 6-point system. I'm not sure what counts as an "approximate match", either.

january1may: 5 points (date close enough for being in the same century?)

Dorado: 2 points (Approximate country [USSR] & denom. [a form of ruble] match?)

pepactonius: 3 points on both (approx. date matches)

Arkie: 4 points (date not close enough)

bd251: 2 points (I don't even know what that is...)

Joseph7420: 3 points (approx. country)

Coopertron5000: 2 points (exact country)

bungle: 2 points (exact country)

Sorry, I'm not too familiar with those coins so, that's the best I can come up with. What does everyone think?

P.S. I decided to "declare" a winner because nearly a full week had passed since the challenge coin was posted. That's too long.

To make it more "user friendly", I suggest 3 days for exact or similar examples to be posted after the challenge coin. If no one can get a single point, then a new challenge coin should be posted by the original challenger for the round.

As far as "approximate", the country should be at least another official government controlling the same territory (expressed with the last coin with the difference between Russia and the USSR).

The date must be in the same century to be approximate.

The denomination should be of the same unit. For example, 10 rubles is close to one ruble but, 10 kopeks does not count as close to one ruble. Likewise, three shillings is close to one shilling but, three pence is not. The qualifier is the standard, not the quantifier if that makes sense.

That's the best I can come up with and it's good that some of the quirks can be worked out so early.



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As far as "approximate", the country should be at least another official government controlling the same territory (expressed with the last coin with the difference between Russia and the USSR).

The date must be in the same century to be approximate.

The denomination should be of the same unit. For example, 10 rubles is close to one ruble but, 10 kopeks does not count as close to one ruble. Likewise, three shillings is close to one shilling but, three pence is not. The qualifier is the standard, not the quantifier if that makes sense.
I mostly agree with you on the country (though I'd probably include closely related nearby governments - e.g. Prussia and Bavaria, or East and West Germany).

For dates, we've mainly standartized on "same reign" where applicable, and I propose "within 10-20 years" or something along those lines when there's no reign involved (or when the reign is extremely short).
A century is probably far too wide (as long as the challenge is not ancient or medieval, and in some cases even then).

As for the denomination, I actually intended that different versions of saying the same thing would count as approximate denomination; e.g. an Australian 10 cents, a French 10 centimes, a US dime, and perhaps even a Curacao 1/10 gulden would all be approximate denominations for each other.
A coin denominated as 20 cents, 50 centimes, Half Dime, or 1/4 gulden would not be an approximate denomination for any of the above, however.


With that in mind, here's my approximation of what the point counts would have been if I was the host...

- maximum possible (e.g. the Numisbids example): 6 points
- best I'm aware of on CCF: this gxseries example, 5 points
- january1may: 4+ points (exact country and denomination, maybe approximate date)
- Dorado: 1 point (approximate country)
- pepactonius #1 and #2: 3 points (exact country, approximate date)
- Arkie, bungle #2: 4 points (exact country and denomination)
- bd251, Coopertron5000, bungle #1: 2 points (exact country)
- Joseph7420: 3 points (exact denomination, approximate country)


My actual new challenge for this thread should follow shortly.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...Apparently, for a good 16 hours nobody cared enough to comment on my previous post

But I expect to be unable to access this forum much over the next few hours, so I might as well post this challenge anyway.


You might recognize this coin from an earlier thread featuring it.

Specifically, this is the rare silver coin that I accidentally convinced a dealer was aluminium

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Yemen, Mutawakkilite Kingdom of, Imam Yahya bin Muhammad.
1/10 riyal (Y#5.5), 1362 or 1364 AH (1943 or 1945 AD).

Unclear overdate - 1362/44 or 1364/43 or 1364/52 (wasn't able to find good pictures of two of those three; the remaining one, 1364/43, is similar but inconclusive).


I thought that the overdate was a clear 1364/43, but 1362/44 is at least as likely, so I'm allowing either dates to count under the "exact date" category. I'm definitely not looking for any specific overdate!
Approximate date should probably include the entire Y#5.5 type range (1921-1947).

As described in the previous post, I'm willing to count any Yemen government for approximate country (even if it didn't occupy the same territory as the kingdom).

As for approximate denomination... I'll say that anything denominated as "1/10 riyal" is exact, and anything that can be truthfully described as 1/10 of a riyal, rial, or real, is approximate.
But I'll think more about it if/when we start getting examples
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@january1may I like your breakdown of approximate matches in your previous post. I think specifying what would count as approximate when a challenge coin is posted (as you did) is also a good idea. I don't think I can even get a country match on this one, but I'll have to dig around.
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