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cableguy815 The coins look fine to me either,definitely not cast,the weight&style of the coins are right,the only problem was the material.Passed the magnet test,the ice test,obviously not the less relevant sound test.The 1655 one has no ping whatsoever but that might be caused by the planchet I suppose.Checked another three gold/silver/diamonds dealers today and did two acid tests(I know!)by scratching the edge.The color was brown but it changed a little bit after so I was explained that european silver tends to cause a different reaction than the english one because it's less pure.Anyway I might not keep the coins as I have a new target for my collection! The 1734 one was density tested at a pawnshop,with some kind of a machine ,they said it's steel, but anyway the coin didn't seem right at all in hand and the patina looked artificial.Plus when buying it, the seller said it belonged to his family for the last 40 years and when told it's fake he replied that the coin had the right weight when he bought it!!
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05/10/2018 2:26 pm
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did two acid tests(I know!)by scratching the edge You just gave me a heart attack with that. I don't think scratching will give you a good conclusion unless you get deep enough and take a lot of material in your test. The coin can be plated and can test as silver and still be a forgery. As I learned from Swamperbob and others here on the forum, an SG test is probably the best test to perform if you are doubting what's at the center of your coin. Quote:
Anyway I might not keep the coins as I have a new target for my collection What is this new target? Do share. I splurged a bit and picked some pretty amazing material in an auction a few days ago. I'll post pics later - I think you'll like these pieces. |
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cableguy815 I agree with the silver plating theory but I just don't see the case here.They have the wear and appearance of a 300 years old thaler to be honest!I'm hunting a Transylvanian thaler at the moment!Looking forward to see the pics,pretty sure I won't be disappointed!!
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05/10/2018 3:52 pm
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It would seem we are on the same boat. I have been searching for a nice Transylvanian thaler for a good two years now. Most are well worn, poorly struck, cleaned/tooled and the few that I have liked cost a fortune. I had the privilege to bid on a beautiful specimen earlier this year but I unfortunately lost. https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...view/3-96CT8 I still regret not fighting for this one a bit more. Oh well, one day! |
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cableguy815 I know the type and this particular piece is superb!Price wise one would be lucky to get a -vf/vf for +/-1000,what's above that grade will be going for a lot more.Obviously there's some rare types from some rulers that were in power for a very short amount of time.The Sigismund Bathory,Gabriel Bethlen,G.Racokzy are somewhat common whilst J.Kemmeny,M.Apafy,A.Barcsay are quite rare .Personally i'd be happy even with a common vf to be honest!Need I mention that I'm in fact romanian and I'm still to hold a Transylvanian taler in my hand?
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05/10/2018 5:05 pm
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1981 Isle of Man 1 Crown Non Circulating Commemorative 38.61 mm   Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 |
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Tristan Da Cunha... 1981 25 Pence 38.61 mm Non Circulating Commemorative   Edited by chafemasterj
05/14/2018 09:37 am
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Interesting. Both coins date 1981 and while one is a crown and the other is 25 pence, they are both the same size. Crowns are 60 pence (5 shillings = 12 pence/shilling) so I'd have expected the latter coin to be about half the size (assuming they are the same weight). I guess since they are non circulating and non precious metal base, the size of a coin is moot.
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I'm putting together this commemorative set. (I assume) They are all the same size and weight. Quote:
Crowns are 60 pence (5 shillings = 12 pence/shilling) so I'd have expected the latter coin to be about half the size That being said then the second coin I posted would not qualify for this thread? In this set so far the denominations are as follows: Mauritius 10 Rupees Ascension Island 25 Pence Guernsey 25 Pence Jersey 2 Pounds Bermuda 1 Dollar Kiribati 5 Dollars Eastern Caribbean States 10 dollars United Kingdom 25 New Pence Saint Helena 25 Pence Tuvalu 5 Dollars Falkland Islands 50 Pence Ones I'm missing that I know exist: Samoa 1 Dollar Gibraltar 1 Crown Cayman Islands 10 Dollars Uganda 10 Shillings All are 38.61 mm in diameter and weigh ~28 g. (Huh. In looking I just saw that the one from Uganda is a little bit larger in diameter.) Edit: Doesn't show as part of the set. If I could throw a question out there? What would be a good resource for me to determine all the coins that were minted for this particular set? I went on Numista and searched something like "1981 wedding commemorative 38.61 mm". Under the possibly false presumption that this set were all the same diameter. Thanks in advance. Edited by chafemasterj
05/14/2018 1:28 pm
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Awesome. I found that there were 16 countries that issued the 38.61 mm coins in this series. Thanks for the link.
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@Cableguy. Stunning.
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Wow, the 1669 Denmark 2 Speciedaler is really cool!
Is it rude if I ask how much it set you back?
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